Apr 10, 2023 School Board Workshop

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

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[1. School Board Workshop - 4:30 PM]

HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GOOD SPRING BREAK AND LET'S JUST GET DOWN TO BUSINESS HERE.

[A. UL Property]

>> THANKS, COREY. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. GREAT TO SEE YOU.

IT FEELS LIKE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, BUT IT REALLY HASN'T.

AS COREY SAID, I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A NICE BREAK.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE NOT IN EDUCATION, SO YOU'RE STILL WORKING [LAUGHTER] BUT IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU.

ALL THE EDUCATORS HERE ARE RESTED.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT TONIGHT'S WORKSHOP.

I KNOW SOME OF OUR TEAM IS HERE.

WE'VE THINKING ABOUT THIS ONE FOR A LONG TIME AND I HOPE THE BOARD IS LOOKING FORWARD TO IT AS WELL.

WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING.

I'M STARTING OUT WITH OUR TEAM HERE WHO IS GOING TO DISCUSS THE UL PROPERTY AND SOME VISIONING, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO.

THEN IN A LITTLE BIT WE'LL HEAR FROM MARILYN AND I BELIEVE DOREEN, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING ON SOME MARKETING PLANS FOR OUR CHOICE SCHOOLS.

TWO REALLY IMPORTANT TOPICS AND TIMELY.

WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE TWO AMAZING SPEAKERS HERE, WITH THAT COREY.

>> SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO, MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO TOUCH ON THIS, BUT I FIGURED FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING AND EVERYTHING WITH THE CURRENT LIGHT OF OUR BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND IN REDUCTIONS MAY BE PROVIDING A LITTLE CONTEXT ABOUT WHY WE'RE DOING THIS NOW AND HOW THIS DOES AND DOES NOT AFFECT THE BUDGET WOES THAT WERE IN REGARDING THE GENERAL FUND?

>> ABSOLUTELY. I WAS TRYING TO AVOID THE BUDGET CONVERSATION COREY, BUT SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT BUDGET AND BUDGET REDUCTIONS AND THAT WHOLE PREMISE.

THERE'S PEOPLE PUBLIC, WHICH IS VERY NATURAL TO THINK ABOUT PROPERTY.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL SAY, WELL, IT WOULD BE A SIMPLE SOLUTION.

WE HAVE SOME PROPERTY IN THIS 'REAL ESTATE CLIMATE, WOULDN'T IT BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE DISTRICT TO MAYBE SELL OR DO SOME WORK WITH OUR REAL ESTATE AND OUR LAND.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO REMIND FOLKS OF IS THAT THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT POCKETS OF MONEY IN DIFFERENT BUDGET CATEGORIES.

CAPITAL SPENDING IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN INSTRUCTIONAL SPENDING OR GENERAL FUND SPENDING.

I WISH IT WERE THAT EASY, IT'S NOT.

BUT I WILL SAY COREY THAT WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THIS SPACE.

I THINK THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL IN PURCHASING OF THIS AREA IN THIS LAND.

I'M EXCITED MYSELF TO BE A PART OF THE VISION HERE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING COREY? SO NOW I APPRECIATE THAT.

WITH THAT SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KURT PULASKI AND HEIDI HANSON, BOTH FROM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES GROUP AND PART OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH ESD 112.

THERE'S OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TEAM HERE IN THE BACKGROUND TOO.

KURT I'LL PASS IT OFF TO YOU. GOOD SEEING YOU.

>> GOT IT. THE GRAIN IS ALWAYS A GOOD SIGN.

I'M KURT PULASKI AND I LEAD THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES GROUP PROGRAM.

WE ARE A STATEWIDE PROGRAM SERVICE OF THE NINE MEMBER EDUCATIONAL SERVICE DISTRICTS OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

THE GENESIS OF OUR PROGRAM WAS FROM A PHONE CALL THAT YOUR FORMER SUPERINTENDENT MILL DENISON MADE 29 YEARS AGO TO THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE ESD 112 DR.

TWILA BARNES AND MILE CALLED TWILA AND ASKED, WHY DON'T WE JUST PASSED THE BOND, WE NEED SOME HELP.

WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? AND SO HERE WE ARE TODAY, 29 YEARS OLD.

IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO COME BACK TO CAMAS AND THE CAMAS SCHOOL DISTRICT.

JOINING ME IS HEIDI HANSON TO MY RIGHT.

HEIDI IS THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR FOR OUR STATEWIDE CAPITAL PLANNING GROUP.

HEIDI'S BASED IN LAKE STEVENS, WASHINGTON.

THEN ALSO WE HAVE TODAY JOINING US SENIOR STAFF, MR. PHIL IVERSON, PHIL IS THE GENTLEMAN THERE AND PHIL AN ANDY TWYMAN.

ANDY AND PHIL OUR SENIOR PROJECT MANAGERS WHO HAD BEEN RECENTLY CONCLUDING THE SUCCESSFUL MANAGEMENT OF THE KELSO SCHOOL DISTRICT 150 MILLION DOLLAR BOND PROGRAM.

ALSO, ANDY'S DAUGHTERS, ONE IS GOING TO BE IN MIDDLE-SCHOOL AND ONE IN HIGH SCHOOL AND AS A NATIVE OF CANADA.

OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS WITH YOUR DISTRICT STAFF,

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WE'VE TRAVELED TO VISIT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND WE'VE SHARED OUR OWN EXPERIENCES OF WORKING CURRENTLY WITH 50 DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

HISTORICALLY, WE'VE WORKED WITH OVER 150 OUT OF 295 SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN WASHINGTON.

YOU HAVE A VERY WIDE SPECTRUM OF PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO YOU.

BUT OUR FOCUS TODAY WAS TO LOOK AT HOW THIS WIDE RANGE.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY FOCUSED ON THIS, HOW THIS WIDE RANGE OF OPPORTUNITIES WHICH WE WILL GO THROUGH TOGETHER THIS AFTERNOON CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE CREATION OF COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT JUST YOUR STUDENTS, BUT ALL FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS IN THE DISTRICT, WHILE SUPPORTING THE DISTRICTS LONG-TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY.

THE FOCUS OF THIS SLIDE IS THE WORD COMMUNITY.

REALLY, THIS IS A TRICK, A NUANCE THAT WE SOMETIMES DO IN PLANNING TO HAVE YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOUR CAMPUS IS PART OF A LARGER COMMUNITY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FOCUS OF THIS SLIDE IS CAMPUS.

THIS IS A CAMPUS THAT YOU CURRENTLY ARE THE STEWARDS OF, BUT IT IS IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AS WELL.

ONE ITEM THAT RESONATED WITH US AS WE LOOKED AT THAT IDEA OF COMMUNITY AND CAMPUS ARE TWO OF THE DISTRICT GOALS, WHICH YOU ARE A REMARKABLE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IT'S VERY RARE IN OUR EXPERIENCES WE WORK WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO REALLY FOCUS ON INNOVATION AND PARTNERSHIP.

THE FACT THAT YOU ARE CONNECTING COMMUNITIES AND CONNECTING INVESTMENTS TO SUPPORT YOUR SCHOOLS AND THE FAMILIES AND THE COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY QUITE SPECIAL AND RELATIVELY UNIQUE IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON IN OUR EXPERIENCE.

THESE TWO ISSUES ARE VERY MUCH DRIVE OUR THINKING WHEN AS OUTSIDERS, THE EXTERNAL EXPERTS, IF YOU WILL BEGAN TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO YOU.

WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO EMBRACE THESE TWO.

THIS IS THE COMMON PRACTICES WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU WHEN YOU'RE ENGAGING IN WHAT IS CALLED COMMUNITY-BASED DEVELOPMENT AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IT'S A VERY SPECIAL AND CHALLENGING MISSION, AND WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED.

I'M CALLING THIS THE DISTRICT AS DEVELOPER.

THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE SEE AS THE KEY ELEMENTS IN OUR EXPERIENCE THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO BE AWARE OF AND TO HOLD AS FUNDAMENTAL GROUND TRUTH, IF YOU WILL, OF YOUR WORK AS A COMMUNITY AROUND THE LEAD BETTER CAMPUS.

SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THIS REALLY FAR-REACHING GREAT OPPORTUNITY REALLY ARE VERY FOCUSED ON ENHANCING EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND LOOKING AT THE FUTURE, AND SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT HOW YOU WILL GROW, AND THERE IS NO QUESTION IN OUR MIND THAT THE CAMAS SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND YOU WILL HAVE ENROLLMENT INCREASES HERE AND THE CAPACITY OF THE DISTRICT TO ADDRESS FUTURE STUDENTS NEEDS, AS WELL AS WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WILL DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION AND YOUR EDUCATIONAL MISSION IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT.

DISTRICT'S FOCUS ON THAT LONG-RANGE VIEW AT THE SAME TIME FOCUSING ON HOW TO UTILIZE THE CAPITAL THAT JOHN JUST MENTIONED, THOSE CAPITAL RESOURCES YOU HAVE FOR EFFICIENT CAREER-CONNECTED LEARNING AND OTHER LEARNING PROGRAMS. DISTRICTS THAT LOOK AT THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ALSO FOCUS ON ENHANCING EXISTING PRE-K AND ALSO BEGINNING A VERY AGGRESSIVE INTEGRATION AT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAM FOR NOT JUST THE STUDENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT AND THE FAMILIES, BUT REGIONAL STUDENTS, STUDENTS OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT THAT MAY WISH TO PARTICIPATE.

I THINK WE'RE ALSO SEEING A MOVE OF VERY STRONG MOVEMENT TOWARDS COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS OPPORTUNITY.

REALLY, THE IDEA OF EFFICIENT AND PUBLIC OPERATING AND CAPITAL FINANCIAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT IS VERY KEY TO WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE AS SUCCESSFUL DISTRICT AS DEVELOPER.

THERE IS A COMMITMENT OF DISTRICTS THAT LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT REALLY FOCUS ON HOW TO DEVELOP STRONG LEARNING COMMUNITY.

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BUT THEN THERE'S ALWAYS A COMMITMENT THAT WE SEE THE FLEXIBLE AND ADAPTIVE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES THAT SURROUND YOUR CAMPUSES AND THE IDEA OF INVESTING IN ENVIRONMENTALLY AND FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT.

AS A DISTRICT, UNDERTAKES DISCUSSIONS, BUT THESE ARE VERY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO DEVELOP THE LAND THAT YOU ARE STEWARDS OF, WE WANTED TO SHARE THESE KEY LESSONS.

THESE ARE REALLY INTENDED TO HELP YOU APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE A LONG-TERM INVESTOR.

NOT A SHORT-TERM INVESTOR, NOT A MARKET INVESTOR, BUT A LONG-TERM INVESTOR, AND THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT FOR YOU AND IT'S DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO CONFLATE THE TWO AND YOUR OWN PRIVATE ROLES AND YOUR BUSINESSES AND THE OTHER COMMITMENTS THAT YOU HAVE AS BOARD MEMBERS, BUT THIS IS TYPICAL FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT AS A DEVELOPER THAT YOU HAVE A LONG-TERM PERSPECTIVE ABOUT YOUR MISSION.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION THAT IT'S WHAT WE SEE IS CRITICAL AS TO ESTABLISH VARIOUS STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES THAT SUPPORT YOUR VISION AND BUILD COMMUNITY TRUST AT THE SAME TIME.

THIS THIRD ISSUE ABOUT LEADING AND NOT BE LED IN OUR VIEW WE SEE THAT AS PROBABLY THE CORE CONCEPT THAT IS OFTEN FORGOTTEN IN THE HEAT AND THE EXCITEMENT OF LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

WE SEE THAT IT IS OFTEN THE MOST CHALLENGING FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE THE HIGHEST RISK.

LET'S PUT OUR NEGATIVE RISKS TO BUILDING COMMUNITY TRUST IS WHEN A SCHOOL DISTRICT YOU DO NOT LEAD, BUT OUR LED.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LEAD.

THEN, I THINK IN THE END, SOME OF THE THINGS WE SEE IS THAT THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF FINANCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE ALLOCATION OF APPROPRIATE RESOURCES, VERY OFTEN DISTRICTS ARE LEVERAGE THESE OPPORTUNITIES BY MINIMIZING THEIR CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION.

THE SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE SEEING, I REALLY SEE NO DISTRICT OPERATING BUDGET CONTRIBUTION TO THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, AND THAT THE RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU HAVE WITH THIS ASSET, LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIPS, WHEN BRINGING PART POTENTIAL PARTNERS TO THE TABLE, IS VERY CRITICAL.

IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETAIN THE LONG-RANGE, AGAIN, THAT LONG-TERM INVESTOR PERSPECTIVE.

THOSE ARE OUR FOURTH BIG TAKEAWAYS FOR YOU ON WHAT WE SEE AS I HAD CHARACTERIZED THESE KEY LESSONS LEARNED.

YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THIS, BUT WE WANTED TO SHARE ONE SLIDE, WHICH IS WHAT'S ON THE GROUND WITH YOU.

THIS IS A VERY CONCISE, SIMPLE EVALUATION OF WHAT IS A VERY COMPLEX ITEM.

BUT YOU BASICALLY, WE VIEW THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE ALMOST 80, 90-ACRE CAMPUS.

IT ISN'T A MATTER OF SKY VIEW AND THEN THE UL CAMPUS, IT'S ONE PLACE.

WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS ONE ENTITY BECAUSE THE FUTURE SKY VIEW IS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION FOR YOU AS WELL.

EXCUSE ME, SKY RICH.

MY APOLOGIES, THAT'S ME.

ON THIS SITE, YOU'VE GOT A 30-YEAR-OLD BUILDING, AND IT DOES HAVE AGING RESEARCH PROGRAM EMPHASIS.

WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.

THE SITE IS A TERRIFIC SITE IN TERMS OF ITS DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY, AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE GREAT AMENITIES OF PARKING AND PAVED ROADWAYS, AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN PLACE.

THESE ARE ALL WONDERFUL AMENITIES, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WERE VERY POSITIVE AND THINKING ABOUT THIS AS AN INVESTMENT, A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT.

YOU'RE ALSO IN A MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS ZONING.

ZONING IS POLITICAL, AND IT IS VERY CRUCIAL IN A COMMUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE ITS ORIGINS, AS WELL AS THE CAPACITY IT HAS FOR ALLOWING MAXIMIZING DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THE FUTURE, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE.

IT'S A BUSINESS PARK ZONE, AND THIS IS VERY COMMON IN THE '90S.

YOU'VE HEARD OF THE IDEA OF RESEARCH PARK.

THOSE KINDS OF IDEAS.

ACADEMIC UNIVERSITIES HAVE CREATED THESE KINDS OF

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THE WORLD HAS CHANGED SOMEWHAT SINCE THE '90S AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE THINGS.

I WOULDN'T DESCRIBE IT AS ANTIQUATED, BUT IT DOES LIMIT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR DEVELOPMENT.

FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE LISTED A FEW HERE, AND HEIDI HAD DONE THIS RESEARCH.

WAS IT LOT COVERAGE? IN OTHER WORDS, THE CITY REALLY IN THIS KIND OF ZONING WANTS TO PROTECT OPEN SPACE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE USE OF THE TYPES OF BUILDINGS.

PREFABRICATED BUILDING IS ACTUALLY LITERALLY THE WORDS THAT'S USED IN THE ZONING CODE HERE.

SITE LIGHTING IS VERY CRITICAL, AND RESIDENTIAL USE IS NOT ALLOWED.

WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU WHAT ARE SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES ARE THAT AS THE SITE IS, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT IS DEVELOPED AND THEY'RE REALLY THREE BIG ONES.

THAT'S REALLY SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, AND THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDING AND SITE DESIGNS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE ACQUIRED AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT THROUGH YOUR LAST BOND AND IN THE PAST AND INTO THE FUTURE.

THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KEEP IN MIND.

THESE ARE THE THREE MAJOR ELEMENTS THAT WILL DRIVE THE CONSIDERATIONS AS YOU EXPLORE IN MORE DETAIL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

HOW ARE WE DOING, YOU DOING OKAY? [LAUGHTER] WHAT EMERGED FOR US WAS REALLY THERE WERE THREE, LET'S CALL THEM PROGRAM AREAS OR ACTIVITY AREAS, THAT WE SAW REALLY EMERGE IN CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD AS A BOARD IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN OUR EXPERIENCE.

WE'RE GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THESE THREE.

THE FIRST IS NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

THE BENEFITS TO CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK.

FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE ZOOMING IN, THIS MAY BE VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHAT YOU WILL SEE WILL BE A SIMILAR LEVEL OF SCENARIO DEVELOPMENT FOR EACH OF THE AREAS THAT OF THE THREE AREAS WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY.

THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BLOW YOUR MIND OR [LAUGHTER] DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO SHARE WITH YOU A DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO, TO SHARE WITH YOU AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL WHAT THE IMPACT COULD BE ON EXPENDITURES BY THE DISTRICT, BOTH IN TERMS OF YOUR OPERATING BUDGET IN YOUR DISTRICT CAPITAL BUDGET, WHAT REVENUE POTENTIAL THERE COULD BE, WHAT THE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE MIGHT BE, HOW IT MAY SUPPORT THE DISTRICT'S MISSION BECAUSE YOU ARE A PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEN WHAT SOME OF THE KEY LEGAL MATTERS ARE THAT MIGHT BE IN FRONT OF YOU.

THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE SUMMARY OF WHAT ARE VERY COMPLEX OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU TO CONSIDER OVER TIME.

BUT IN BRIEF, I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE WANTED TO PUT IN FRONT OF YOU AS THE SCENARIOS.

ONE IS REALLY TO HAVE A COMPONENT OF THE PROPERTY WHICH WAS THAT SUPPORTED NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH YOUR COMMUNITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ONE COULD BE FOR EXAMPLE, A LONG-TERM MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT WITH A PROFIT PROPERTY OWNER.

IT COULD BE WITH A NON-PROFIT PROPERTY OWNER.

THERE ARE FOUNDATIONS, THERE ARE ENTITIES, WE ALL KNOW THEM THAT ARE VERY ACTIVE IN THE NON-PROFIT COMMUNITY.

SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACTUALLY LEGALLY CAN SUB-DIVIDE IN THIS STATE PROPERTY AND SELL IT WHEN IT IS NO LONGER REQUIRED FOR SCHOOL PURPOSES.

THIS IS USUALLY DERELICT PROPERTIES OR THINGS LIKE THIS.

THEN THE LAST IS REALLY SOMETHING WHICH IS MORE COMMONLY DONE BY SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

ONE OF THE REASONS, PHIL IVERSON AND MY COLLEAGUE IS HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE AS PHIL'S EXPERIENCES THE FORM OF DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR THE CENTRALIA SCHOOL DISTRICT BEFORE JOINING CONSTRUCTION SERVICES GROUP WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THIS OPTION, WHICH IS REALLY THIS IDEA OF A COMMUNITY RETAIL MASTER LEASE VIA MULTIPLE PARTNERSHIPS.

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AN IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY I THINK FOR THE BOARD NOT IN LOOKING AT THIS OVER TIME, IS THAT IN DOING THIS, THERE ARE SOME VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS.

THERE IN THE NOTE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE THAT THE DISTRICT WILL REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN WITH THE CAMAS OF THE CITY OF CANYON IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S SOME COMPLEXITY AROUND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE ALL THESE ISSUES.

BUT THIS IS OFTEN DONE BY A SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WHEN A SCHOOL DISTRICT IS LOOKING TO BUILD A PARTNERSHIP WITH TYPICALLY MUNICIPALITY OR WITH A PARTICULAR ENTITY THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE ON RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP BECAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE NO, YOU DON'T REALLY REQUIRE THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL OF A LARGE CAMPUS.

THIS IS REALLY THE LAST OPTION THAT, EXCUSE ME, THAT THIRD OPTION IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SEE PRETTY RARELY DONE AND MAY NOT BE RELEVANT TO YOU, BUT IT MAY BE BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

THERE'S REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THESE BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT RISKS AND SO FORTH.

VERY HIGH LEVEL OF SUMMARY, DON'T MEAN TO BLOW YOUR MIND.

BUT THIS IS REALLY COMMUNITY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT USUALLY ENTAILS A PROPERTY SUBDIVISION.

THE SECONDARY THAT REALLY EMERGED, THAT SEEMED TO BE REALLY GERMANE THAT EMERGED FROM LOOKING AT THE HISTORY, LOOKING IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, AND LOOKING AT HOW OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE APPROACHED A COMMUNITY CAMPUS OPPORTUNITY, WAS HOW TO SUSTAIN AND CREATE A REALLY COMMUNITY OPEN SPACE, RECREATIONAL AND SPORTS FACILITIES OPPORTUNITIES.

WE CALL THAT HEALTH AND WELLNESS BENEFITS THROUGH THE USE OF THE CAMPUS TO THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS NOT A CAMAS COMMUNITY CAMPUS OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT YOUR MISSION.

THIS IS ALSO NOT UNCOMMON.

YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF AS MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS OF DOING A LONG-TERM PROPERTY MASTER LEASE WITH A FOR-PROFIT ENTITY.

THIS FROM A GOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE, REQUIRES YOU TO BE THE PROPERTY MANAGER.

THERE ARE POTENTIAL NET AND GROSS NET PROCEEDS FROM THAT LEASE.

NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE OFTEN SEE IN THESE SUCCESSFUL AND BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE MANY THAT ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL, BUT IN SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL DISTRICT, MASTER LEASE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE RECREATIONAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS FACILITIES FOR-PROFIT ENTITIES, OFTEN A SCHOOL DISTRICT LEA WANTS TO LEAD THAT EFFORT BY ESTABLISHING WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU AND TO ACTUALLY ESTABLISH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PARTNER YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE ON YOUR CAMPUS AND YOUR COMMUNITY CAMP.

THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF LEADERSHIP NOT BEING LED.

THE OTHER SCENARIO, WHICH IS ALSO RELATIVELY COMMON, IS THAT A SCHOOL DISTRICT WORK CAREFULLY WITH A LOCAL GROUP OF CITIZENS WHO WANT TO, AND YOU CAN DO THIS IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, CREATE A NON-PROFIT PARK AND RECREATION DISTRICT.

THIS PARTICULAR ENTITY HAS NO TAXING AUTHORITY, BUT CAN BE CREATED AND CAN PURSUE GRANT FUNDING.

THAT PARK AND RECREATION DISTRICT THEN USES YOUR PROPERTY AND DEVELOPS AND OPERATES UNDER A MASTER LEASE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CASTLE ROCK SCHOOL DISTRICT NEARBY HAS VERY SUCCESSFULLY MANAGED FOR OVER 20 YEARS ON THEIR HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS THROUGH THIS EXACTLY THAT TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP.

THERE ARE MANY OTHER EXAMPLES.

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NOW IT DOES ONLY REALLY PROVIDE JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT SCENARIOS LIKE THAT THAT ARE PURSUED BY SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE REALLY ALMOST LOOKING STRICTLY AT THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT.

THESE ARE SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR SOMETIMES HAVE A DEEP FINANCIAL CHALLENGES AND ARE LOOKING FOR EITHER RELIEF FROM DEBT SERVICE AND/OR NEW CAPITAL INVESTOR FOR THE FINANCIAL PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.

THEN THE LAST SCENARIO IS AGAIN, THIS IDEA OF A JOINT DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP OF MULTI PUBLIC AGENCIES.

THIS COULD BE A PORT DISTRICT, THIS COULD BE A CITY, THIS COULD BE A RANGE OF OTHER ENTITIES THAT COME TOGETHER AND TRY TO PUT TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF JOINT DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP.

I WOULD EDITORIALIZE FOR JUST A MOMENT AND SAY THESE ARE HISTORICALLY.

THE EVIDENCE WOULD INDICATE ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING APPROACH IS FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO UNDERTAKE GIVEN YOUR MISSION.

WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN HAVE ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE.

THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE SHARED WITH YOUR STAFF ALREADY AND WE'VE DONE SOME CASE STUDIES ON THIS AND WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK AROUND THIS SUBJECT FOR YOU THAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU.

LAST AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANT, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT YOUR MISSION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THIS IS THE LAST ONE OF THIS.

WE SHARE FIVE EXAMPLES HERE OF SCENARIOS THAT WOULD SUPPORT YOUR EDUCATIONAL MISSION AND OUR VIEW AND THAT WE HAVE SEEN.

I THINK THE FIRST IS REALLY THE IDEA OF A CAREER CONNECTED LEARNING OR OTHER EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT DISTRICT REGIONAL STUDENTS OUTSIDE OF YOUR DISTRICT THAT MAY WISH TO COME TO THE CAMAS SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT DISTRICT CAPITAL COMMITMENT APPROACH AND OFTEN THESE APPROACHES ARE DRIVEN BY CAPITAL BONDS OR A CAPITAL PROJECT LIFE.

THIS IS VERY COMMON IN FOR EXAMPLE THIS SPOKANE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE THEY ARE VERY INVOLVED IN THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND BRING PARTNERS TO THE TABLE, BUT THEY BRING ALL THE CAPITAL DOLLARS TO THE TABLE BUT NONE OF THE OPERATING DOLLARS TO THE TABLE.

IN FACT, WE HAVE VISITED WITH THE SPOKANE PUBLIC SCHOOL STAFF AND EXAMINED THEIR APPROACH TO PARTNERSHIPS AROUND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S ALSO FOR YOU THE SKILL CENTERS IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND IT'S A VERY ROBUST PROGRAM IN TERMS OF ITS CAPITAL AND OPERATING SUPPORT.

SURPRISINGLY, SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON IS DEEP IN OUR VIEW OF DEEPLY UNDERSERVED BY THE SKILL CENTER INVESTMENTS OF THE STATE.

THERE'S HISTORY FOR THAT.

THERE IS A NEED THAT EXISTS.

THE REASON WE'RE SUGGESTING THIS IS A POTENTIAL SCENARIO FOR YOU IS THERE IS THE POTENTIAL OF A REGIONAL SKILL CENTER EXPANSION WHICH IS FUNDED THROUGH STATE CAPITAL FUNDS AS WELL AS STATE OPERATING DOLLARS AND THE GOVERNANCE OF THAT WOULD BE REALLY WITH THE STATEWIDE WASHINGTON STATE SKILL CENTER GOVERNANCE.

THE CAPACITY TO PURSUE THAT IS INTERESTING RELATIVE TO AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM FOR YOU.

IT'S ONE OF THE SCENARIOS.

IT'S RELATED TO CAREER CONNECTED LEARNING AND HAS OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME BLENDED OR HYBRID DISCUSSION WITH REALLY A STATE CAPITAL AND STATE OPERATING BUDGET FUNDING SOURCE.

THE NEXT SCENARIO IS REALLY ABOUT THE STATUS QUO AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS CURRENTLY VERY ACTIVELY DOING REAL ESTATE MARKETING OF THE BUILDING, NOT NECESSARILY THE SITE, BUT THE BUILDING THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SITE.

THE FOURTH SCENARIO IS REALLY THESE VERY COMPLEX HYBRID OPERATIONS WHERE

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IT'S SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM DEVELOPMENTS BY SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO ALWAYS TRY TO MINIMIZE YOUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT, IT POSSIBLY CAN.

THEN I THINK THE LAST WAS REALLY A VERY LOGICAL IDEA OF A STATE OF WASHINGTON COMMUNITY COLLEGE EXPANSION.

WE'VE SEEN THAT IN EAST VANCOUVER AREA WHERE STUDENTS RUNNING STARTS STUDENTS THAN OTHERS, THE CONVENIENCE OF HAVING THAT FACILITY THAT'S CURRENTLY ON MILL PLANE, BUT THE GROWTH OF I THINK THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE PROGRAMS FOR ADULT EDUCATION AND OTHERS IS INCREASING.

I'VE GOT GRAY HAIR AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT ARE LOOKING AT CONTINUED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND ALL OF THESE KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES WHICH COMMUNITY COLLEGES SERVE QUITE WELL AND THAT YOU COULD BUILD LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIPS WITH.

OF COURSE, IN THAT INSTANCE, THESE WOULD REALLY FOCUS IN LARGE PART ON THE BUILDING ON YOUR CAMPUS, AND HOW TO ADDRESS THE CHALLENGE OF THE BUILDING ON YOUR CAMPUS WHICH IS A 30-YEAR-OLD BUILDING.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE MY COLLEAGUE TOO BECAUSE WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE SOME BENCH-MARKING ASSOCIATED WITH CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN YOUR BUILDING.

THIS IS NOT DESIGN.

I'M AN ARCHITECT, BUT WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED ANYTHING.

WHAT WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU IS WE ALSO ARE THE AUTHORS OF THE STATEWIDE BUT FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE CAPITAL COST STUDY FOR ALL SPI.

CSP PREPARED THAT, AND SO WE CONTINUE TO BE AN OBJECTIVE SOURCE FOR THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT FUNDING FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT CAPITAL FUNDING FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

HEIDI IS GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS NEXT PAGE.

>> THANK YOU KURT. NOW WE GET TO THE STUFF PART OF THE PRESENTATION WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL COSTS. WE'VE GOT THE GREEN LIGHT.

>> I WANT YOU [OVERLAPPING]

>> HOW'S THAT? IS THAT OKAY? I CAN HEAR THAT.

GREAT. WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL BUILDING THAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE AND AS KURT HAD MENTIONED, IT'S A 30-YEAR-OLD BUILDING AND IS IN NEED OF SOME UPGRADES TO IT.

WE CLASSIFIED THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPACE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY WORK FOR THIS BUILDING.

THE FIRST OF THOSE BEING STEM AND LABORATORY SPACE FOR STEM EDUCATION.

THE SECOND, LEARNING RESOURCE CENTER AND CLASSROOM SPACE AND THEN THIRDLY OFFICE AND COMMON AREA SPACE.

WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL FLOOR PLANS AND FIGURED OUT SOME APPROXIMATE SQUARE FOOTAGES OF EACH TYPE OF AREA.

THEN USING OUR CAPITAL BENCHMARKS, WE FIGURED OUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO DO RENOVATIONS OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPACES.

WE DID TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR EACH TYPE OF SPACE.

THE FIRST BEING A MAJOR REMODEL, THE SECOND BEING A MINOR REMODEL OF THOSE SPACES.

YOU CAN FOLLOW IN THE TABLE HERE, WE HAVE THE ESTIMATED GROSS SQUARE FEET FROM OUR COST MODELS.

THE PROXIMATE CONSTRUCTION COST PER SQUARE FOOT.

WE HAVE TO ADD IN TAX.

OF COURSE, UNFORTUNATELY, AS YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TO PAY THE TAX ON THOSE; THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WHICH LEADS US TO THE ESTIMATED TOTAL DIRECT CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

THEN TO THAT WE ADD IN EITHER 25% FOR THE MINOR REMODEL OR 30% FOR THEIR MAJOR REMODEL OF THE INDIRECT COSTS.

THAT INCLUDES ALL THE TYPES OF MISCELLANEOUS COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE PROJECTS, ANYTHING FROM DESIGN, PERMIT FEES, ADMINISTRATION COSTS, EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO THAT FOR THE ENROLLED INTO THE ESTIMATED TOTAL PROJECT COSTS.

IN THE CHART RIGHT HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CURRENT 2023 DOLLARS.

IN THE CHART DOWN BELOW WE KNOW THAT OF COURSE YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE TAKING ACTION ON THAT IMMEDIATELY.

WE APPLIED THE CURRENT ESCALATION FACTORS AND KNOWING THAT THE LONGER YOU WAIT, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS.

THE NUMBERS DOWN THERE ON TOP TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ANNUAL ESCALATION RATES.

WE CALCULATED IT OUT TO 2028 AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN COSTS OF HOW MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE STEM SPACE AT ANYWHERE FROM

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THE LEARNING RESOURCE CENTER AND THE CLASSROOMS ARE FROM 19 TO AROUND 24 MILLION, AND FOR THAT AREA OF SPACE AND THE OFFICE AND COMMON AREAS FROM AROUND $7-$9 MILLION.

ONCE AGAIN THOSE ARE IN CURRENT 2023 DOLLARS, AND OF COURSE THE LONGER YOU WAIT THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS.

>> SINCE THE CONCLUSION OF MOST RECENT BOND PROGRAM, THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT SHOCKING ESCALATION IN BOTH LABOR AND MATERIAL COSTS IN PUBLIC WORKS CONSTRUCTION.

THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT MESSAGE WE SHARE WITH ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT WE WORK WITH.

BECAUSE EVERYONE REMEMBERS 15 YEARS AGO, WE KNOW WE BUILT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR $15 MILLION RIGHT NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RENOVATING A 30-YEAR-OLD BUILDING.

THESE ARE BENCHMARKS AND SO NOTHING HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND THIS ISN'T INTENDED TO SAY THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE, BUT YOU ARE IN THAT RANGE.

THIS IS ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALSO THIS IS WHY MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL PARTNERSHIP ON THESE PLANS.

BECAUSE OF THE RESOURCES THAT IT CAN TAKE.

I THINK WE WANTED TO CONCLUDE BY JUMPING OUT AT ALL OF US, WE'RE REALLY THE CORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

WE'VE JUST BEEN LOOKING AT THIS OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

WE'D BEEN THROUGH THE BUILDING IN DETAIL.

WE GET IT.

WE KNOW WHAT'S THERE.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOME WONDERFUL PRELIMINARY LOOKS AT IT, BUT WE'RE TAKING YOU INTO THE BEYOND THE ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING VISION STUFF.

THIS IS REALLY SOME OF THE CHALLENGES.

YOU HAVE A CHOICE FOLLOWING OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS OR YEARS AND THAT IS, DO YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE VISION? AND YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD YOUR ACTIONS AND YOUR TASK TO MEET THAT VISION? OR MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS ALSO JUST SIMPLY HAVE AN INCREMENTAL AD HOC APPROACH WHERE IT'S ONESIE TWOSIES AND YOU WING IT.

IT'S NOT TO SAY ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

BUT THAT'S THE SPECTRUM YOU'RE FACING.

OF COURSE, WERE GREAT ADVOCATES FOR COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY VISION [LAUGHTER].

BECAUSE EMPIRICALLY, THAT'S WHAT IS MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN THE AD HOC APPROACH.

BUT LEADERS CHANGE, COMMUNITIES CHANGE, BUT YOU'RE ON A GLIDE PATH.

UNLIKE MANY OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK WITH, WHICH SOME OF WHOM ARE REALLY DECLINING, SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SOME ARE REALLY BLOWING APART AT THE THEMES.

IN OUR VIEW, YOU'RE AN EXTREMELY VISIONARY STABLE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT HAS HUGE OPPORTUNITIES.

WE CAN'T SAY THAT FOR MOST OF THE 50 SCHOOL DISTRICTS WE WORK WITH.

WE ARE JUST ENCOURAGING YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE IN TERMS OF THE LONG-RANGE, YOU ARE A LONG-TERM INVESTOR YOU'VE MADE THAT DECISION, IT'S A GOOD DECISION THE COMMUNITY IN OUR VIEW.

THE ISSUE AROUND FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY IS REALLY CRITICAL AND THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THESE SCENARIOS THAT WE'VE SHARED WITH YOU.

ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY FOCUS ON THAT.

HOW CAN YOU REMAIN AND CONTINUE TO ENHANCE YOUR FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY? WE WORK IN A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND PROFESSIONS WHICH ARE VERY UP AND DOWN.

WE ARE USED TO THIS INSTABILITY THAT'S NOT VERY TYPICAL IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT'S A BELL SCHEDULE, IT'S A VERY STABLE ENVIRONMENT AND TO WORK IN THIS ENVIRONMENT IS REALLY CHALLENGING THESE TIMES.

THEN I THINK THE ISSUE OF BECOMING A TRUSTED PARTNER AND LEAD IN THE COMMUNITY IS, YOU'RE CERTAINLY, IN OUR VIEW, HAVING WORKED WITH JOHN AND JASON AND OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR STAFF, YOU HAVE A REMARKABLE LEADERSHIP IN OUR VIEW, TO BUILD THAT TRUSTED RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOU CAN UTILIZE IT, THIS CAMPUS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AS A WAY TO ENHANCE THAT TRUST WITH YOUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK THE BIG ISSUE FOR YOU, THE NEXT STEP IS THIS IDEA OF A SHORT, MID, AND LONG TERM.

IN A CERTAIN SENSE, YOU DO ALL OF THIS STUFF AT ONCE.

AS ARCHITECTS, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

THERE REALLY HAS TO BE A PATTERN AND A RHYTHM HERE.

WE COULD HAVE PREPARED SCENARIOS FOR YOU THAT LOOKED AT SHORT, MIDDLE, AND LONG-RANGE APPROACHES TASKS AND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH DATE TARGETS.

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OR OTHERWISE, YOU'RE JUST ENGAGED IN THIS CONVERSATION WHICH IS WONDERFUL AND EDUCATIONAL, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ACADEMIC AND YOU HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THERE IS SOME SENSE OF URGENCY ABOUT IT.

I THINK YOU NEED TO GRAPPLE WITH THIS AND WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE IT A HIGH PRIORITY BECAUSE IT'S QUITE VISIONARY WHAT YOU HAVE AS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE.

YOU'RE STILL IN THAT EXPLORATORY PHASE FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.

BUT I THINK THAT DURING THAT EXPLORATORY PHASE, YOU REALLY OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT 2-5 YEARS AND THEN FIVE PLUS.

THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR THINKING AND SHARING WITH YOU A LOT OF STUFF HERE, APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT HOPEFULLY, IT WILL BE HELPFUL AS YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR PATH FORWARD ON THIS UNBELIEVABLE CAMPUS COMMUNITY CAMP HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

HOPEFULLY, BEFORE WE CUT YOU GUYS LOOSE, I KNOW THIS IS A VERY HIGH-LEVEL DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD JUST LOVE TO GET SOME THOUGHTS AROUND THE TABLE AND EVEN AROUND THE ROOM.

I KNOW IT WAS A LOT TO TAKE IN, BUT REALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE LEAVE FROM HERE LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, WE CAN DO A LOT OF THIS VERY ACADEMIC TALKING AND I KNOW WE'RE STILL IN A VERY EARLY STAGES OF ALL OF THIS, BUT I'VE HEARD FROM A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE THIS BUILDING WHEN WE PURCHASED IT.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WENT THROUGH WITH IT IS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY WITH THIS.

IT CAN BE A LOT OF THINGS.

BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM HERE?

>> OFTEN BEFORE OR A PART OF THIS PROCESS WE DO, LIKE OUR CAPITAL FACILITIES.

LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND SEE WHAT DO WE NEED NEXT IS THERE'S ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS IS IT GOING TO BE AT HIGH SCHOOL? THAT PROCESS I THINK IS COMING UP.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A KEY PIECE TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTION TO GO.

BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WE CAN PUT A HIGH SCHOOL ON THIS CAMPUS.

WE COULD PUT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE COULD DO A SPORTS COMPLEX, AND ALL THE IDEAS THAT YOU BROUGHT INTO AND I FEEL LIKE, UNTIL I KNOW THAT PIECE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M ABLE TO HAVE THAT VISION BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WE NEED NEXT AND WHEN.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE NEXT CRITICAL PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO DO TO PUT INTO THIS PUZZLE TO FIGURE OUT THEN WHAT THIS VISION IS.

THEN ONCE I DO THAT, I CAN LOOK AT THOSE ALL THESE SCENARIOS WITH I THINK I GET MY MIND AROUND IT MORE EASILY.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF OPTIONS THAT I'M LIKE, WE THOUGHT OF THAT.

>> JASON, I'M TRYING TO MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH YOU ACROSS THE ROOM.

WE RECENTLY DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS, CORRECT? WE RECENTLY DID A LONG-TERM OUTLOOK IN TERMS OF OUR CAPITAL FACILITIES NEEDS.

I'M SORRY, JUST PULL YOU UP TO THE TABLE HERE.

IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, IT WAS IN TERMS OF BUILDINGS WHERE WE'RE AT OR NEAR CAPACITY.

IT'S MORE IN THE MIDDLE-SCHOOL AREA.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT?

>> YEAH. WE JUST UPDATED OUR CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN AND THAT WAS PART OF A STATUTORILY REQUIRED PROCESS.

IT ALSO SETS OUR IMPACT FEES FOR THE FUTURE.

THAT ANALYSIS LED US TO THE NEED FOR EDUCATIONAL SPACE AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL, AND ALSO, POTENTIALLY THE HIGH SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY THEREAFTER.

BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN WAS ONLY A SIX-YEAR OUTLOOK.

WHEN YOU LOOKING AT THIS CAMPUS AND OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THAT, IT'S REALLY A LONGER-TERM VISION.

CLEARLY, WITH SKY, ALMOST SAID SKY VIEW. I COULD.

SKYRIDGE NEXT DOOR, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH GRASS VALLEY, WE CAN'T SEE IT ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, BUT IT'S A STONE'S THROW AWAY.

I'M JUST ACROSS SLED BETTER THERE, SO IT'S NOT REALLY AN ELEMENTARY SITE.

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SOMETHING THAT WOULD COMPLEMENT OBVIOUSLY SKYRIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

BECAUSE SUCH A LARGE PART OF IT CONNECTS WITH THAT CAMPUS.

WITH THAT IN MIND, WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS SEE JULY 2019, LESS THAN 12 MONTHS LATER WE WERE INTO COVID.

LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.

IT'S BEEN OUR PATHWAY FORWARD UP TO THIS POINT THAT WE WERE LEASING THE BUILDING.

SINCE THE PROPERTY CAME WITH A NICE BUILDING THAT WAS MARKETABLE, WE WERE ABLE TO LEASE OUT THAT SPACE, COVER OUR CARRYING COSTS AND ACTUALLY HAVE LEASE REVENUES AND THE AMOUNT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO INVEST BACK INTO THE BUILDING TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE NEEDS THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE 30-YEAR BUILDING.

THAT'S PROBABLY A LONGER ANSWER THAN WHAT YOU WANTED, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE SOME OF THAT PERSPECTIVE.

>> I'LL JUST GIVE A FEW COMMENTS.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT, SO A LITTLE OF THAT RESONATES WITH ME.

ONE THING I DO LIKE THAT YOU SAID THAT I HADN'T THOUGHT OF BEFORE IS CONSIDERING AS AN ENTIRE CAMPUS.

WE'RE ALWAYS THINKING OF IT AS 57 ACRES OF UL WHEN ACTUALLY IT'S 87.

THAT OPENED MY MIND UP TO SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT I HADN'T THOUGHT OF BEFORE, SO I DID APPRECIATE THAT.

AS FAR AS WHAT TO DO WITH THE BUILDING, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR COMMUNITIES STILL ALSO AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN.

I HEAR A LOT OF SPORTS COMPLEX.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SOCCER FIELDS OR ANY OF THAT STUFF FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD OF THE CASCADIA TECH, SO I'M ALSO REALLY INTERESTED IN SKILL CENTERS AND WHAT CAN WE DO AND HOW CAN WE GET KIDS IN THERE AS A SKILL CENTER? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT CASCADIA TECH IS FULL, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION PROGRAMS AND WHATNOT.

[BACKGROUND] YES, BUT I ALSO KNOW THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MONEY FROM THE STATE FOR YEARS TO DO REMODEL THERE AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD END UP GETTING MONEY TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IF THEY CAN'T GET IT FOR THEM, SO JUST SOME THINGS LIKE THAT COME TO MIND.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND I DO LOVE THAT WE CAN JUST CREATE THIS VISION FOR IT AND I KNOW IT TAKES A LONG TIME ALSO.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, IT COULD BE 10 YEARS.

IT'S A LONG TIME IN DEVELOPMENT.

I DO FEEL THAT URGENCY THAT WE NEED TO REALLY START LAYING IT OUT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HAD IT SINCE 2019.

THAT IS A QUESTION WE GET A LOT OF IS, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH IT? I THINK FROM THIS LIST, I COULD GO THROUGH A FEW AND BE LIKE NO.

THERE'S SOME I THINK YOU COULD CHECK OFF RIGHT AWAY AND AT LEAST NARROW IT DOWN TO, THESE ARE A FEW FROM EACH OF THOSE SLIDES THAT YOU SAID THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD EXPLORE MORE OR NOT EXPLORE AT ALL.

I DON'T KNOW IF AND WHEN WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OF CROSS THOSE THINGS OFF AND, YES, WE WANT TO EXPLORE THESE ONES MORE, BUT I DO THINK KEEPING THIS IN THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS AND KEEP REMINDING THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS MONEY IS DIFFERENT MONEY, WE CAN'T SELL THIS OR DO ANYTHING WITH THIS.

WE COULD SELL SOME OF THIS PROPERTY IF WE CHOSE TO, BUT IT WOULD NOT HELP OUR CURRENT BUDGET SITUATION.

BUT I ALSO THINK ASKING THE COMMUNITY FOR A BOND FOR ALL THOSE, THAT'S A BIG ASK RIGHT THERE.

HOW ELSE DO WE GET THAT MONEY? DO WE PARTNERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT? GREAT JOB. I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION. THANK YOU.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TOO IS THAT WE OWN A LOT OF PROPERTY ACROSS OUR DISTRICT.

WE HAVE PROPERTY OUT NORTH IN FARM PRAIRIE, WE'VE GOT SOME STUFF OUT TOWARDS THE BUSINESS PARK AROUND PARK RIM.

THAT'S COMMON, DISTRICTS PURCHASE PROPERTY.

THE FACT THAT THIS ONE HAS A BUILDING ON IT AND IT HAS SO MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE ON IT, I THINK JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE OBVIOUS TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE GOT THIS AND PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW, BUT WE DO HAVE PROPERTY THAT WE BASICALLY JUST SIT ON UNTIL WE NEED IT OR UNTIL WE WANT TO SWAP IT OUT FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT COMES ON THE MARKET.

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IF WE'RE COVERING OUR COSTS ON STUFF TOO, I ALSO DON'T WANT TO JUST JUMP INTO SOMETHING JUST TO SAY, LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IF WE'RE COVERING COSTS ON IT THROUGH LEASING SOME THINGS OUT, WE HAVE THE TIME TO BE REALLY METHODICAL ABOUT THIS.

I KNOW THAT THE LONGER WE WAIT ON THINGS, THE MORE IT'S GOING TO COST IN THE FUTURE, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO POINT THAT OUT.

I ALSO KNOW THAT THE CONVERSATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL ALWAYS COMES UP.

CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, WE HEAR THAT A LOT THAT IT'S BIG AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GO THERE? THAT'S A TOUGH CONVERSATION TO HAVE BECAUSE BIG IN THE EYES OF SOME IS NOT NECESSARILY BIG IN THE EYES OF THE STATE OR WHAT WE CAN REALLY AFFORD IN TERMS OF ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL.

I KNOW JASON, I KEEP LOOKING AT YOU AGAIN.

SORRY, WE'RE MAKING AWKWARD EYE CONTACT A LOT TODAY DURING THIS MEETING.

[LAUGHTER] WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT TOO, THAT EVEN THOUGH CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, IT IS A BIG CAMPUS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER BUILDINGS IN OUR DISTRICT.

WE MAY NOT QUITE REALLY BE THERE YET TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT TWO COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOLS, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE CHOSEN IN THE PAST TO GO IN THIS SPECIAL PROGRAM.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY ALTERNATIVE, BUT SPECIAL PROGRAM HIGH SCHOOLS.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE AN EXERCISE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO BRING THEM ALONG WITH THAT BECAUSE CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL IS BIG, BUT IT WAS BUILT FOR THE SIZE, THE AMOUNT OF KIDS THAT ARE IN THERE.

IT'S NOT BIGGER THAN UNION OR SKYVIEW OR THE OTHER SCHOOLS.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S SOME MASSIVE SCHOOL THAT THERE ISN'T ANY OTHERS AROUND LIKE THAT, WE'RE SIMILAR IN SIZE.

BUT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE DO ANYONE OR NOT, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AN ACTIVITY THAT WE GO THROUGH WITH THE COMMUNITY.

>> NO, THAT'S PERFECT. I THINK HAVING THE COMMUNITY DISCUSSION, HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE.

I WANT TO ALSO EMPHASIZE THAT WHILE WE PURCHASE PROPERTY AND WE DO IT IN ADVANCE TO TRY AND STRETCH OUR DOLLARS AS FAR AS WE CAN BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING A PREMIUM WHEN YOU PASS A BOND AND YOU GOT TO ACQUIRE LAND TO PUT THE BUILDING ON.

IT'S VERY STRATEGIC ON OUR PART, BUT I THINK THAT THIS DISCUSSION IS IMPORTANT AND IT REALLY COULDN'T HAPPEN DURING COVID.

THAT WAS NOT THE TIME.

IT'S NICE THAT WE'VE GOT SOME TIME AND DISTANCE AFTER THE PANDEMIC TO START TO ENGAGE IN THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE ALTHOUGH WE HAVE HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR THREE YEARS, I THINK WE'VE BEEN ACTIVE.

WE'VE RETAINED TWO BUSINESSES THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE POTENTIALLY MOVED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.

I THOUGHT THAT, THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT INVESTMENT BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY TO NOT JUST PURCHASE AND SIT ON IT.

I THINK WE REMAINED ACTIVE BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO, I THINK BE COGNIZANT OF ALL THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS WE HAVE AS A PUBLIC AGENCY.

IT'S NOT JUST OUR PARENTS, IT'S ALSO YOUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS IN THE CITY, IN THE PORT.

WE PLAY A LARGE ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY'S ECONOMY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE THE LARGEST EMPLOYER HERE PRETTY SOON.

THAT COMES WITH SOME RESPONSIBILITY.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

I HOPE THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY HIT YOU WITH TOO MANY OPTIONS, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU FOLKS UNDERSTOOD THE SPECTRUM OF POSSIBILITIES.

IT IS A REFLECTION OF MANY CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD, THAT YOU'VE HAD WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND CONSTITUENTS, WITH SUGGESTIONS ON, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THIS? HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT? THERE'S NOTHING HONESTLY ON ANY OF THESE SLIDES THAT FRANKLY, WE PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN APPROACHED ON AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT MULTIPLE TIMES.

WE ARE LOOKED AT AS A COMMUNITY LEADER AND I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE

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I THINK THAT'S A NATURAL NEXT STEP AROUND HERE, THAT OUR VISION ALSO ALIGNS WITH WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THEIR LARGER COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RESPONSIBILITY.

>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

ONE OTHER TAKEAWAY, JASON, THAT I WANTED TO SHARE FROM OUR VISIT IN SPOKANE WAS A QUESTION THAT, THAT THEIR DISTRICT LEADERSHIP ASKED US TO PONDER, WAS, WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE AND WHO DO WE WANT TO BE? REMEMBER THEM ASKING US THAT AS WE GET INTO THIS REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT MODEL, WHEN WE HAVE PROPERTY LIKE THIS, DO WE WANT TO STAY IN THE LEASE BUSINESS? DO WE WANT TO MOVE INTO MORE OF AN EDUCATIONAL MODEL? I THINK THAT'S PART OF THAT LONG-TERM VISION THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE AWAY AND CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ROLE DO WE WANT TO PLAY WITH THIS PROPERTY AND OTHERS.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU COREY, I THINK THIS ONE COMING LATER TO THE PARTY HERE.

THAT QUESTION COMES UP A LOT BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS THERE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT POINT ON YOUR PART.

YEAH, THESE ARE QUESTIONS COREY TEAM THAT WILL CONTINUE TO PONDER AND HOPEFULLY THAT YOU'RE AVAILABLE FOR MORE QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK.

TRACY, I'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT DIRECTION AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST TIME FOR US TO GO TO OUR COMMUNITY AS THE DUST SETTLES WITH SOME OF OUR BUDGET REDUCTIONS.

WE WILL DO THAT.

WE'LL GET SOME FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND THEN HOPEFULLY GET BACK TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. COREY.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY TOO, JUST THINKING ABOUT TRIGGER SOMETHING THERE THAT I APPRECIATE.

I KNOW THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF YOU THAT WENT UP AND LOOKED AT STUFF LIKE THE SPOKANE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING.

YOU MADE ALLUSIONS TO, I THINK, CASTLE ROCK AND CENTRALIA AND SOME OTHER DISTRICTS, THAT MAKES ME FEEL MORE CONFIDENT IN OUR PROCESS THAT THERE ARE SOME PROVEN SUCCESS STORIES OUT THERE.

ALONG WITH THESE SCENARIOS, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ANOTHER DISTRICT HAS ATTEMPTED AND THEY'VE MET THIS LEVEL OF SUCCESS WITH IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE OTHER THAN THE COMMUNITY IS HAPPY WITH IT.

THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT THIS AS WHAT OUR PLAN IS.

WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY GOING TO SAY THAT'S A GOOD USE OF THAT PROPERTY.

BECAUSE IT IS SO CENTRALLY LOCATED AND IT'S IN THE HEART OF OUR SO MANY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND LAKE ROAD IS SUCH A BIG THOROUGHFARE THROUGH THERE.

THAT'S MY BIG THING IS IN END, WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO WITH THIS, WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, YEP, THAT'S A GOOD MOVE.

IF WE CAN HEAR FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HAD SUCCESS, THAT WAY, I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO NARROW THESE SITUATIONS DOWN.

>> WHICH IS IMPORTANT IN WHAT JASON YOU SAID, MEETING WITH OUR CITY AND BEING A PARTNER WITH THAT AND BLENDING THAT WITH WHAT CONNIE MENTIONED ABOUT GETTING THE TASK FORCE TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.

I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME AMAZING PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS.

WHAT I APPRECIATED, WHAT YOU BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

I JUST LOVED THE WAY THAT YOU'VE ORGANIZED THIS TO HELP US GET THINKING BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK AT THIS MAP OF THIS BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY.

YOU HAVE PUT IT INTO BULLET POINTS, INTO SUBJECT MATTER INTO WHICH WE CAN REALLY DIGEST.

REALLY, I COULD SEE A MARRIAGE OF MANY OF THESE THINGS.

THIS PROPERTY IS SUCH A TREASURE TO BE ABLE TO DO MANY OF THESE THINGS AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CITY AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT I LOVED THE SHORT, THE MID, AND LONG-TERM RANGE.

THAT IS SOMETHING I HADN'T THOUGHT OF BEFORE, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> JUST IN CLOSING HERE.

WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? IS THIS JUST AN EXERCISE AND JUST GETTING OUR MIND'S GOING RIGHT NOW, DO YOU NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM US? WHEN DO WE COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS?

>> REALLY FOR THIS EVENING,

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THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION REALLY IN THE SLIDES TO DIGEST.

I THINK IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ASK INITIAL QUESTIONS.

THEN WE HOPE THOSE QUESTIONS CONTINUE AFTER THIS MEETING FROM YOU.

THEN WE CAN SHAPE WHAT'S THAT NEXT STEP.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO RUSH INTO NECESSARILY A PARTICULAR DIRECTION TONIGHT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DIGEST, BUT INFORMATION WE'VE SHARED WITH YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING OR THE NEXT A FUTURE MEETING.

THE BOARD JUST NEEDS TO LET STAFF KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPECTATION IS AS FAR AS WE WERE READY TO START TAKING SOME MEANINGFUL STEPS TOWARDS DEVELOPING A SITE PLAN BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT YOU END UP DRIVING TOWARDS.

THEN THERE'S A WHOLE APPROVAL PROCESS WITH ANY SIGHT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

RIGHT NOW, CITY OF CAMAS IS PROBABLY ABOUT A TWO-YEAR WINDOW TO GET A SITE PLAN APPROVAL.

IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LESS, MAYBE 18 MONTHS DEVELOPMENT HAS SLOWED DOWN.

I KNOW, 12 MONTHS AGO IT WAS TWO YEARS.

[NOISE] THIS IS A LONG-TERM PROCESS.

BUT WE NEED THAT STAKEHOLDER INPUT BEFORE WE GET TO ANY SITE PLAN THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH.

IT'S ALL ABOUT A COMFORT LEVEL.

I DON'T LIKE TO PUT A TIMELINE ON THE COMFORT LEVEL OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, BECAUSE YOU ARE A REFLECTION OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, OBVIOUSLY, AND SO YOUR COMFORT LEVEL IS IMPORTANT.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LIKE COREY ALLUDED TO THE EXAMPLES, IF THERE ARE EXAMPLES AROUND OUR STATE, AROUND THE COUNTRY OF DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN DIG IN AND LOOK AND GET OUR MIND AROUND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE EXACTLY? HOW IS THAT HAPPENING?

>> OR EVEN IF WE CAN GO VISIT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'M THINKING LIKE WHEN I KNOW THIS WAS BEFORE MY TIME, BUT WHEN THE BOARD WAS ENVISIONING THE PBL CAMPUS AND PUT THAT YOU GUYS WOULDN'T ACTUALLY VISITED SOME OF THESE SITES.

I THINK THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GET MY HEAD AROUND. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

>> THAT'S GREAT. NO, I TOTALLY AGREE.

>> I'M THINKING MAYBE, FROM MY EXPERIENCES BEING ON THE BOARD FOR FIVE-YEARS, I LIKE THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE VISIONING FOR GARVER.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT REALLY DID BRING IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT STAKE HOLDERS AND JUST GET EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AND GUIDE CONVERSATIONS THROUGH THAT.

FROM A BIG PICTURE DOWN TO SOME OF THE DETAIL.

THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT ON OUR SUMMER BOARD RETREAT TO COME BACK TO.

I DON'T KNOW IF LATE JUNE, EARLY JULY IS A GOOD TIME FRAME FOR THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR OUR GUESTS?

>> SORRY. THANK YOU.

IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THAT.

I GUESS A SKY VIEW OF SKYRIDGE.

[LAUGHTER] EVERYTHING ELSE.

SORRY, I WASN'T GOING TO SAY EXCITE YOU, I'M SORRY.

I HADN'T SEEN IT THAT WAY.

FOR ME WHEN I SAW IT, I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS EXCITING.

THE FUTURE SEEMS BRIGHT WHEN EVERYTHING SEEMS A LITTLE BIT GLOOMY THESE DAYS.

THE POTENTIAL IS OBVIOUSLY, UNLESS I'M NOT THOUGHT OF IT THIS WAY BEFORE, BUT THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, ALL OF THOSE THREE THINGS THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED.

BUT JUST KEEP LOOKING AT COMMUNITY RETAIL TO ME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT EXACTLY MEAN, TO BE HONEST.

YOU DID MENTION THERE OBVIOUSLY, PLACES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THIS THING.

I'M SEEING SCENARIOS OF HAVING THINGS TO LOOK UP, TO LEARN MORE WILL BE GREAT.

BUT IT IS EXCITING TO SEE IT.

ALSO JUST TWO PIECES ARE ACTUALLY ONE, WHICH AGAIN, NOT PART OF IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED HERE? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

I'LL GIVE JUST A SECOND HERE TO SWITCH OUR PRESENTATIONS OVER TO OUR NEXT PRESENTATION.

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>> GO AHEAD, GARY. AS I SAID EARLIER,

[B. Middle & High School Marketing Update]

WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE ALSO SEE A BRIGHT FUTURE NOMINEE TO YOUR POINT, AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS TIME AND REALLY ALMOST REVISIONING SOME OF OUR OPTIONS FOR KIDS.

EXCITING TIMES WILL COME OUT OF THIS, I PROMISE.

TONIGHT, GOOD TO SEE GARY HERE.

I DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS COMING, SO GREAT.

SPECIAL GUEST. BUT MARILYN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE SINCE SHE ACTUALLY TOOK THE HELM AS A SECONDARY DIRECTOR, AND REALLY HELPING TO SUPPORT OUR PRINCIPALS AND OUR STAFF AND OUR STUDENTS AT OUR CHOICE SCHOOLS AND ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS.

BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE GET A LOT OF IS HOW ARE WE WORKING TOGETHER TO REALLY MARKET OUR PROGRAMS AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS AN UNDERSTANDING, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE A DEEP UNDERSTANDING AT, IN MY OPINION, A VERY YOUNG AGE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.

KIDS CAN START TO MAKE, AND PARENTS CAN START TO MAKE DECISIONS AS EARLY AS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LET ALONE MIDDLE-SCHOOL.

WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE AGAIN, JUST A HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION, AND I'LL PASS IT OFF TO MARILYN AND GARY.

>> THANK YOU. GARY HAPPENED TO COME IN AS HE OFTEN DOES.

HE'S ONE OF THE FEW ADMINISTRATORS THAT ATTEND SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS, AND HE IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PLAYER IN THIS MARKETING OF CHOICE SCHOOLS.

I JUST TEXTED HIM AND SAID, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIT BY ME? [LAUGHTER] HERE HE IS, THAT'S GARY FOR YOU IN A NUTSHELL.

ONE THING THAT WE NOTICED, THAT I'VE NOTICED AS I BECAME THE DIRECTOR OF SECONDARY, IT IS THAT CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL IS A GREAT SCHOOL AND I ATTENDED A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT'S THE SCHOOL I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN HAD I LIVED HERE IN CAMAS.

MY KIDS ALL WENT THROUGH CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, ALTHOUGH MY SON TOOK A DIPLOMA FROM HAYES AND FROM CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE HE DID HIS SENIOR PROJECT LONG STORY.

BUT WHAT I CAME TO UNDERSTAND IS WE HAVE THESE CHOICE SCHOOLS THAT ARE THE BEST KEPT SECRETS IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.

WE SET OUT TO TRY TO DO SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY TO CHANGE THAT.

WE JUST HAVE A FEW SLIDES TO SHOW YOU.

THE FIRST THING WE THOUGHT WAS, HOW DO WE REACH OUT TO EIGHTH GRADE? NOW THIS IS WHERE GARY COMES IN, REALLY BECAUSE I WASN'T INVOLVED IN EIGHTH GRADE VISITATIONS FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS WHEN I WAS AN HR.

WHEN I WAS A PRINCIPAL DEPUTY, WE TOOK THE KIDS TO THE SCHOOLS AND DURING COVID THAT DIDN'T REALLY HAPPEN, AND SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BEGIN TO MARKET OUR CHOICE SCHOOLS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE STUDENTS WHO ATTEND THERE.

WE ARRANGED AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE JUST LOOKED AT THE SECONDARY EVENTS AND IN FACT, I THINK YOU-ALL HAD STARTED THAT WORK IN THE SPRING TIME, DEVELOPED THAT SCHEDULE.

WE HAD ARRANGED FOR KIDS TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS FROM LIBERTY AND FROM SKYRIDGE AND FROM ODYSSEY.

THEN WE HAD PARENT MEETINGS IN THE EVENING, AND THEN CCA HAD A VIRTUAL MEETING AS IS WANT FOR AN ONLINE ACADEMY.

WHAT I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH WAS I HAD THE CHANCE TO GO UP TO DISCOVERY ON THE 14TH OF MARCH FOR THAT FIRST VISIT.

NOW DISCOVERY HIGH SCHOOL IN PARTICULAR, THEY REALLY WANTED TO SHOW THE KIDS WHAT PROJECT-BASED LEARNING IS.

THEY ASKED FOR AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES AND THEY TOOK THE KIDS AND HAD THEM DO PROJECTS AND WALK THEM THROUGH THE VARIOUS PARTS OF THE SCHOOL.

THE HAYES'S TOUR WAS MUCH SHORTER THAN THAT, AND THEN THEY DIDN'T OF COURSE, TOWARDS CCA, THEY DID? BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE PRACTICED, I DON'T KNOW.

CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE THE KIDS GO TO CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL.

IT WAS OUR BELIEF THAT PEOPLE KNEW WHAT CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL WAS.

THAT CERTAINLY OUR EIGHTH GRADERS KNEW WHAT CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL IS.

WE GOT FEEDBACK FROM OUR EIGHTH GRADE TEAMS, TEACHERS SAYING LOOK AT.

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WE NEED TO TAKE THEM THERE SO THEY CAN SEE HOW BIG THAT SCHOOL IS AND HOW MANY KIDS ARE THERE, AND WHAT THE PARKING LOT LOOKS LIKE, AND WHAT THE GYM LOOKS LIKE, AND SO PROBABLY THE LAST WEEK, WE ADDED CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL TO THAT TOUR.

WHEN I WAS A PRINCIPAL THEY'D GO TO CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, THE BAND WOULD PLAY, THE CHEERLEADERS WOULD COME OUT, THEY DO THE HAND JIVE THING, AND THEN WE HAD A DANCE, A COMBINED LIBERTY AND SKYRIDGE DANCE, BECAUSE AT THE TIME THERE WERE ONLY TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO TRY TO BRING THE KIDS TOGETHER.

BUT THE ASSUMPTION THERE WAS STILL THAT MOST OF OUR KIDS WERE GOING TO GO TO CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL.

WELL, NOW, THAT WAS THEN AND THIS IS NOW.

DOREEN WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US GET A VIDEO PUT TOGETHER OF ALL OF OUR CHOICE HIGH-SCHOOLS.

WE'D LIKE TO PLAY IT FOR YOU IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

DO NOT KNOW HOW TO CAUSE IT TO PLAY.

>> [MUSIC] EDUCATION THAT OFFERS THE FLEXIBILITY YOU NEED, CAMAS CONNECT ACADEMY MAY BE THE RIGHT FIT FOR YOU.

CAMAS CONNECT ACADEMY IS AN ONLINE K THROUGH 12 SCHOOL THAT OFFERS PROGRAMS FOR STUDENTS ACROSS SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON.

WITH IN-PERSON OPPORTUNITIES AND SUPPORT AND A KNOWLEDGEABLE AND CARING STAFF, CAMAS CONNECT ACADEMY IS YOUR GATEWAY TO BETTER LEARNING.

>> REALLY, MY DECISION TO SWITCH TO CCA WAS WORKING WITH MY PARENTS ABOUT WHAT MORE I COULD BE DOING FOR MYSELF.

>> I REALLY LOVE THE SUPPORT.

FRANKLY, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST PART.

YOU'RE LEARNING YOUR OWN NEEDS, YOU'RE LEARNING WHAT IS EASY FOR YOU, WHAT IS HARD FOR YOU, AND YOU CAN CARRY THAT THROUGH THE REST OF YOUR SCHOOLING.

>> WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT CCA AND THE KIDS THAT ARE FINDING US, YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR STUDENTS THAT NEED THAT EXTRA FLEXIBILITY, BUT NOT A REMOTE PROGRAM THAT ABANDONS KIDS TO JUST THE SOFTWARE.

>> IN THE ELEMENTARY AND SPECIFICALLY IN THE YOUNGER GRADES, WE LOOK LIKE AN AVERAGE DAY IN PERSON.

WE LOG IN, WE DO MATH, SHORT BREAK LOG IN, DO LANGUAGE ARTS.

IT JUST KEEPS GOING LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

>> EVERY DAY THOSE LITTLE ZOOM FACES POP UP ON THE SCREEN, MAKES MY DAY.

THERE'S A CONNECTION THAT WE BUILD THROUGH THAT SCREEN THAT IS HARD TO DESCRIBE, AND JUST REALLY LOT OF FUN.

>> I HAVE A CREATIVE WRITING CLASS HERE AT CCA, AND IT'S VERY MUCH, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO WRITE ABOUT TODAY? I'M BLOWN AWAY BY HOW MANY STUDENTS JUST RUN WITH THAT.

ONLINE LEARNING IS CHANGING.

IT'S BECOMING MORE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING PERSONALIZED APPROACH, JUST LIKE CCA DOES.

>> I LOVE THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH THESE PROBLEMS TOGETHER AND THEN THEY'LL WRITE ME EMAILS AFTERWARDS AND BE LIKE, L GOT 100%.

THAT PIECE MAKES ME FEEL PERSONALLY LIKE I'M MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT IS SPECIAL, IS WE'RE TAKING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOOD ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOOD ABOUT ONLINE LEARNING AND PUTTING IT ALL INTO ONE PACKAGE THAT SUPPORTS KIDS.

>> I MADE THE DECISION WHEN CCA STARTED THAT I WANT IT TO BE ONLINE.

IT WAS FUN BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE MORE EXCITED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY THAN THEY ARE SITTING IN A CLASSROOM.

>> MY ALL-TIME FAVORITE THING ABOUT CCA'S CURRICULUM IS THE EDGENUITY FORMAT.

THE VIDEOS REALLY KNOW HOW TO KEEP YOU ENGAGED, AND I LOVE HOW IT'S LAID OUT AND I LOVE SEEING IF I'M BEHIND OR ON TARGET.

>> WE HAVE EDGENUITY WHICH HAS MOST OF OUR CORE CLASSES, THEN WE HAVE EDYNAMICS AND THAT HAS THE MAJORITY OF OUR LECTURES.

IF SOMEBODY HAS A SPECIAL INTEREST, IF TRADITIONAL PAPERS AREN'T THEIR THING, THEN WE CAN GET CREATIVE AND FIND DIFFERENT WAYS THEY CAN REPRESENT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND MATERIAL.

>> THERE IS A PSYCHOLOGY CLASS WHICH THEY DO NOT HAVE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE PSYCHOLOGY.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I REALLY LIKE PSYCHOLOGY UNTIL THIS YEAR.

IT'S FANTASTIC. I LOVE THE CLASS.

>> SCIENCE FOR ME AND TECHNOLOGY IS ALL HANDS-ON, AND SO WE SEND OUT SUPPLIES TO THE KIDS.

THEY ALSO GET THE ROBOTICS PROGRAM.

>> L'VE GOT STUDENTS IN OUR FORESTRY CLASS, L WANT THEM EXPLORING OUR LORD OF THE RINGS.

IT JUST GIVES STUDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN THERE, EXPLORE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO DOWN THE ROAD.

>> ONE OF THE NEATEST THINGS WITH ESPECIALLY JUST DIGITAL ONLINE LEARNING NOW, THERE'S SOME OF THE STUDENTS THAT ARE JUST FIGURING IT OUT SO EARLY AND THEY'RE GETTING ASSOCIATES DEGREES BY THE TIME THEY ARE 17 YEARS OLD.

>> THESE KIDDOS ARE SO COMFORTABLE ON TECHNOLOGY.

WE'RE TALKING, MAKING VIDEOS, EXPRESSING THEMSELVES.

THROUGH THAT ONLINE, THESE KIDS CAN ZOOM AND PROBLEM-SOLVE AS SECOND-GRADERS BETTER THAN ADULTS CAN.

>> WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH CCA IS PROVIDING THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL ACTIVITIES WHERE WE HAVE THE LEARNING LAB THAT'S AVAILABLE HERE, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A FIELD TRIP A MONTH, AN ACTIVITY A MONTH.

>> I COME IN TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS TO WORK IN-PERSON HANDS-ON WITH THE TEACHERS.

I'M EXCITED WHENEVER L'M HERE BECAUSE IT'S JUST YOU'RE COLLABORATING WITH EVERYONE ELSE AROUND YOU.

>> IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SEE THEM, IT'S BEEN GREAT TO HELP THEM.

JUST CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ON TASK.

>> WHAT I WANT TO DO IS SEND THIS MESSAGE OF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS AMAZING ONLINE SCHOOL WITH THESE COOL ACTIVITIES.

>> WE ARE DOING MONTHLY FIELD TRIPS.

WE'RE GOING TO THE ZOO HERE AT THE END OF THE YEAR WITH EVERYBODY.

WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE MORE AND MORE OF THOSE MOMENTS OF ACTUALLY MEETING PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR PROGRAM.

>> THE RESEARCH REALLY IS THAT IF EVERY STUDENT KNOWS THAT THEY HAVE ONE PERSON THAT CARES ABOUT THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SO MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL.

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>> I HAVE LIKE AN ADVISORY TEACHER THAT I HAVE TO GO OVER MY CURRICULUM.

>> IF THEY CAN WORK SEMI-INDEPENDENTLY, BUT WITH THE REALIZATION, WE HAVE ALL THESE TEACHERS THAT ARE BACKING UP ALL THESE CLASSES, PLUS AN ADVISORY TEACHER, THEN THIS MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD FIT.

>> I GO TO BED AND I'M LIKE, I DID SO MUCH SCHOOL WORK TODAY.

I GOT EVERYTHING DONE AND IT'S GREAT TO TELL MY PARENTS I DID FOUR UNIT TEST TODAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I ROCKED THEM.

>> I THINK WE TRY TO TELL OUR STUDENTS THAT AT CCA ALL THE TIME LIKE, LOOK WHAT YOU DID.

FROM THIS WEEK TO THIS WEEK TO THIS WEEK, YOU'RE JUST GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER.

>> THE KIDS ARE SAYING, I AM LEARNING A LOT.

I'VE NEVER HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY.

FOR THE PARENTS, A LOT OF THEM SAY, I HAVEN'T SEEN MY KID GROW LIKE THIS.

THIS IS AMAZING.

>> THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE STARTING, I REALLY WANTED TO BE A PART OF IT FROM THE GROUND UP AND SEE WHERE IT CAN GO.

KIDS THAT WE'RE SERVING ARE ALL OVER CLARK COUNTY, HOW MANY KIDS CAN THRIVE? I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT, IS TO PART OF IT FROM THE GROUND UP AND AS WE GROW THIS PROGRAM, AT THIS POINT WE'RE ALL GOING TO GET BIGGER.

THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING. [MUSIC]

>> WE NOTICED THAT AVERY WAS STRUGGLING WITH TRADITIONAL SCHOOL RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.

>> THERE WERE SO MANY KIDS, SO MANY TEACHERS, SO MANY PERIODS.

IT WAS JUST CHAOTIC AND IT JUST WASN'T A GREAT FIT FOR JOSEPH.

>> LAST SUMMER WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR US AS WE WERE TRYING TO DECIDE WHICH HIGH SCHOOL INITIALIZE.

HE WAS A CONSISTENT HONORS STUDENT AND THIS WAS A BIG DECISION FOR US.

>> RAY WAS READY FOR A NEW ADVENTURE BECAUSE SHE FELT A LITTLE LOST.

SHE JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE SHE COULD BE WHO SHE WANTED TO BE.

>> WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

>> I TALK TO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS STILL.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE EXPOSED TO HIGHER-LEVEL LEARNING THAT'S GOING TO REALLY TRANSLATE TO THEIR COLLEGE?

>> PEOPLE HAVE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S EITHER FOR STUDENTS WHO HAVE REALLY HIGH ACADEMIC GOALS, OR STUDENTS THAT ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH OTHER SCHOOLS.

>> WE HAD TO REALIZE THAT IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT, WE HAD TO DO WHAT WAS RIGHT FOR OUR STUDENTS.

>> WE THOUGHT MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NOT SHOW HIS CURIOSITY TO LEARN AND CONTINUE THIS LOVE FOR LEARNING.

>> WE SAW AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE IN HER.

I MEAN, SHE BLOSSOMED AND HER TEACHER SAID, THIS IS WHAT PROJECT-BASED SCHOOL IS FOR.

>> HAVING THE OPTION TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT WAS ABLE TO CATER MORE TO WHAT THE KIDS NEEDED IN CLASS.

THAT WAS HUGELY IMPORTANT TO US.

THE SENSE YOU HAVE WHEN YOU'RE IN TRADITIONAL SCHOOL AND I REMEMBER THIS MYSELF IS YOU'RE LEARNING SOMETHING FOR A TEST, OR YOU'RE LEARNING SOMETHING FOR AN ESSAY AND THEN YOU CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.

THESE KIDS ARE LEARNING SOMETHING THAT ARE APPLY TO A REAL-LIFE PROJECT.

>> YOU TAKE ALL THE INFORMATION AND YOU LEARN SOMETHING FROM ALL OF IT AT THE SAME TIME.

>> IT MAKES LEARNING ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE FUN THAN DOING A BUNCH OF MEMORIZATION ACTIVITIES.

>> WE LEARN THE SAME CONTENT, BUT IT'S LIKE YOU LEARN IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

>> THEY'RE VERY INDEPENDENT AND IF THEY NEED HELP, THEY COLLABORATE WITH OTHER STUDENTS.

>> THE TEACHERS WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER AS TEAMS AND WHEN THEY'RE GOOD AT SOMETHING IN SCIENCE, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOUR TEACHER THAT'S IN DESIGN ENGINEERING AND SAY, HEY, I THINK THIS STUDENT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD AT THIS, OR COULD YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS? THERE'S SO MUCH CROSSOVER THAT THE KIDS ARE ALLOWED TO GROW IN A WAY THAT YOU DON'T IN A TRADITIONAL SCHOOL.

>> IT'S WAY EASIER FOR ME TO LEARN WHEN I FEEL LIKE THE TEACHER IS ACTUALLY CARE AND I'M DOING THINGS THAT ARE MORE MEANINGFUL.

>> THESE TEACHERS STAY INVOLVED IN THE KIDS LIVES AND ALLOW THEM THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN INFLUENCE IN WHAT COMES NEXT.

>> I'M GETTING THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN ABOUT HOW THINGS WORK, BUT IT'S IN A WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND.

>> I FEEL LIKE I CAN REMEMBER THINGS BETTER FOR DOING THE PROJECT.

>> IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, THERE'S A LOT MORE CHANCES TO ACTUALLY NOT JUST ENJOY WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT IT.

>> I HAVE DEVELOPED A PASSION FOR LEARNING. IT'S SPECIAL.

>> THEY'RE GIVING THEM TOOLS THAT YOU CAN USE NO MATTER WHAT.

>> EVERYTHING HAS BEEN REALLY ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR, WE ARE ALREADY HAPPY WITH IT.

>> I FEEL LIKE IT REALLY DOES SET YOU UP FOR SUCCESS LATER IN YOUR LIFE, I MEAN WE'RE DEVELOPING HUMANS THROUGH THIS PROGRAM IN A WAY NO ONE ELSE IS TAPPING INTO.

>> THIS SCHOOL ESSENTIALLY HAS FORMED ME TO BE THE WAY THAT I AM AND YEAH, I REALLY CAN'T THANK THIS IS COOL ENOUGH FOR THAT.

>> TO SEE YOUR CHILD LIKE A FLOWER AND JUST WILTING AND THINKING, GOSH, YOU'RE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL FLOWER AND I WANT TO SEE YOU THRIVE.

TO SEE HER IN THIS ENVIRONMENT AND JUST FLOURISH

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>> [MUSIC] I CHOSE HAYES BECAUSE I LIKE THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE VIBE.

IT'S VERY POSITIVE AND ENERGETIC AND MOTIVATED.

>> WITH A SMALL SCHOOL, YOU HAVE SMALLER CLASSES.

IT'S NOT CROWDED AT ALL.

>> IT MAKES A REALLY NICE, TIGHT COMMUNITY.

YOU DON'T FEEL OVERWHELMED LIKE YOU'RE JUST IN A FLOOD OF OTHER KIDS.

>> I WENT TO A HUGE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THAT WAS JUST TOO MUCH FOR ME, SO I WANTED A SMALLER ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL.

THERE'S A LOT OF VERY POSITIVE AND KIND PEOPLE HERE WHO, IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING IN ANY THE SUBJECT, THEY'LL HELP YOU.

>> I LIKE THE SMALLER CLASS SIZES.

IT GIVES MORE TIME FOR EXPLANATION AND IF HE'D STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, THEY'LL GO THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH YOU.

THERE'S MORE ONE-ON-ONE TIME AND THE STAFF HERE IS WILLING TO HELP AND THEY FOCUS ON YOUR EDUCATION AND PUTTING YOU AHEAD.

>> I FEEL LIKE ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S TOO BIG AND OVERWHELMING AND STUFF DEFINITELY COME HERE BECAUSE LIKE THEY'LL PUSH YOU AND THE WORK IS STILL JUST AS DIFFICULT AS ANYWHERE ELSE BUT IT'S NOT GIVEN TO US IN AN OVERWHELMING WAY.

>> I ENJOY HAVING A SMALLER SCHOOL IN A SMALLER ENVIRONMENT TO WORK IN JUST MAKES ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.

>> I CHOSE HAYES BECAUSE I PLAY SOFTBALL ALL YEAR ROUND, SO I HAVE PRACTICED TWO TIMES A WEEK AND WE GET MORE TIME TO DO WORK.

IT'S DEFINITELY ADJUSTED TO FIT YOUR NEEDS.

>> IT FITS REALLY WELL WITH MY SCHEDULE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE I ONLY COME HERE AND I ONLY HAVE MY FOUR SUBJECTS, AND THEN I HAVE TIME TO DO THINGS AFTER SCHOOL FOR A WHILE I DID THEATER AND SO THAT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE THAT EXTRA TIME.

>> WE HAVE AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES IN EACH CLASS AND WE HAVE FOUR PERIODS.

IT FEELS MORE REFRESHING AND IT FEELS MORE RELAXED.

OUR TEACHERS HAVE ENOUGH TIME, COUNTING EACH STUDENT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE GETTING IT AND THERE'S ALSO A PROGRAM AFTER SCHOOL WHERE IT CAN BE OF EXTRA HELP. WE CAN DO THAT.

>> I LIKE THE LONGER PERIODS BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LONGER PERIODS.

WE REALLY GET TO DIVE INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

FOR ME PERSONALLY, I LIKE TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND FINISH EVERY ASSIGNMENT THAT WE STARTED.

>> I LIKE WHEN THE TEACHER JUST GIVES US THE ASSIGNMENT AND JUST DO IT AND IF YOU NEED HELP AND ASK US AND EACH TEACHER HERE, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LEARN IT, THEY USUALLY TRY TO WORK AROUND THE WAY THAT YOU WORK, SO EACH STUDENT WORKS INDIVIDUALLY.

THEY TRY TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.

>> THE TEACHERS, ALL OF THEM ARE REALLY KIND AND CARING LIKE THEY USUALLY ALWAYS ASK HOW YOU'RE DOING AND STUFF AND SO IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ACTUALLY GET TO KNOW OUR TEACHERS.

>> OUT OF 100 PERCENT, I RECOMMEND THIS FOR.

MY ANXIETY HAS GOTTEN SO MUCH BETTER COMING TO HAYES BECAUSE I JUST FEEL SO MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE TALKING OPENLY TO PEOPLE.

I CAME FROM A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DISTRICT, SO I DIDN'T KNOW ANYONE HERE AND IT WAS REALLY EASY TO BOND WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF SIMILAR INTERESTS BECAUSE WE ALL CHOSE HAYES.

IT FEELS NICE. IT'S LIKE COZY, I GUESS.

>> A GLOBAL-WIDE COMMUNITY BECAUSE EVERYONE HERE IS ABLE TO BE THEMSELVES.

EVERYONE HAS THE CHANCE TO BLOSSOM.

[MUSIC]

>> THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND PLEASE KNOW, WE DID NOT MAKE THE KID SIT THROUGH IT ALL IN A ROW, THIS IS A COMPILATION VIDEO FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN SEE ALL THROUGH THE VIDEOS.

THE WAY THE VIDEOS WERE PRESENTED WAS VIA EMAIL, WE LINKED IT ON THE SLIDE SHOWS THAT WE SHOWED THE PARENTS AND THEN GARY SENT ALL THAT INFORMATION HOME TO PARENTS AND I'M SURE THAT CLINT AND NICOLE DID AS WELL SO THAT THEY CAN CLICK ON EACH INDIVIDUAL LINK AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE GARY TALK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT THE, IT USED TO BE THE OLDER KIDS WOULD GET CHEMISTS, HIGH SCHOOL FORECASTING MATERIALS, AND YOU KNOW KIDS ARE KIDS, BUT I ALREADY FORECAST FOR CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL AND SO THEY CHANGED THAT PROCESS THIS YEAR.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

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>> [BACKGROUND] HI AGAIN. MARILYN MENTIONED HERE BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL AND HAYES FREEDOM.

BUT CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL WE HAD ALL THE PAPERWORK WE GOT AT LIBERTY WAS BRANDED CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL.

EVERYTHING WAS WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT KIDS WERE GOING TO CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL.

IN FACT, EVERYBODY SAYS THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THERE ARE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS AT THE TIME.

OVER THE YEARS WE WORK TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE KIDS WHO WANTED TO GO TO HAYES DIDN'T FEEL LIKE AFTERTHOUGHTS AND SO WE WORKED TO GET HAYES BRANDED MATERIALS IN THE FORECASTING PROCESS, OR AT LEAST BLANK ONES, SO IT DOESN'T SAY CHS ON IT.

WE STARTED WITH THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THEN AS DISCOVERY AND THEN NOW CCA CAME ALONG.

NOW WE REALLY HAVE A VERY CONCERTED EFFORT AT SCHOOL TO COLLECT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT SCHOOL EACH KID THINKS THEY WANT TO GO TO AND THEN WE CUSTOMIZE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOLS, THEY GIVE US THEIR MATERIALS AND THEN WE CUSTOMIZE THE FORECASTING PROCESS FOR EACH SCHOOL SO THAT KIDS DON'T FEEL LIKE LESS THAN IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THE BIG HIGH SCHOOL.

>> I THINK THE POINT IS THAT PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US AND THEN PROVIDING SPECIFIC FORECASTING INFORMATION TO THOSE STUDENTS IS IMPORTANT AS WELL BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY BEGIN TO FEEL CONNECTED WITH THEIR PROGRAM.

WE ALSO HAD FAMILY INFORMATION MEETINGS AT ALL THE SCHOOLS THAT WERE FAIRLY WELL ATTENDED.

I ONLY WENT TO THE DISCOVERY HIGH SCHOOL ONE BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY MY FOCUS THIS SPRING AND TEACHERS WERE PRESENT AND PRESENTED INFORMATION ABOUT CLUBS AND ACTIVITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL THEY CALL THEIRS RAISING PAPER MAKERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ANYWAY, THEIRS WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED AS WELL.

FOR DISCOVERY, THAT SPECIFICITY, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE KIDS CAME TO DISCOVERY ON THE 27TH, LIBERTY WENT ON THE 27TH, AND SKYRIDGE WENT ON THE 29TH.

THEN THERE WERE VIRTUAL INFORMATION MEETINGS AND PARENT INFORMATION MEETINGS FOR DISCOVERY.

THIS IS A LITTLE OUTDATED ACTUALLY TODAY BECAUSE GARY JUST PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION LATER ON IN THE DAY, BUT WE WANTED YOU TO SEE OF THESE 547 EIGHTH GRADERS, I THINK WE HAVE ONLY 11 THAT AREN'T REPRESENTED HERE AND THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND.

GARY, CAN YOU TALK THEM THROUGH ALL THIS?

>>YEAH. I MADE A SURVEY SO WE COULD COLLECT ALL THE INFORMATION INTO ONE PLACE FROM ALL THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

I THINK WITH ABOUT MAYBE 25 KIDS HAVE NOT FILLED OUT THE SURVEY.

WE KNOW WHERE THE KIDS AT LEAST ARE INDICATING RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY WANT TO GO AND THEN I BROKE IT DOWN FROM EACH MIDDLE SCHOOL WHERE KIDS GO AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE MAIN THING TO POINT OUT, I THINK IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT DISCOVERY AND HAYES FREEDOM, HAYES FREEDOM, THE CURRENT INFORMATION AND I THINK THAT REFLECTS THAT THEY'VE GOT RIGHT NOW 19 KIDS FORECASTING AND PROJECTING TO GO THERE AS FRESHMEN.

THAT MAY NOT SOUND LIKE MUCH, BUT LAST YEAR I THINK THE NUMBER WAS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE AND THEN THEY ALWAYS BUILD FROM THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FRESHMEN ENDING NUMBER IS THIS YEAR, BUT I KNOW IT'S A LOT BIGGER THAN THE STARTING NUMBER, SO WE'RE ALREADY STARTING FROM ALMOST TRIPLE WHAT OUR MOST RECENT INFORMATION IS.

TWELVE OF THOSE KIDS ARE COMING FROM LIBERTY, FOUR FROM SKYRIDGE, TWO FROM ODYSSEY AND THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SEE THERE.

DISCOVERY RIGHT ABOVE IT YOU'VE GOT 15 KIDS GOING THERE FROM SKYRIDGE, SEVEN FROM LIBERTY.

MY EYESIGHT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

THIRTY-SEVEN FROM ODYSSEY AND CCA LOOKS LIKE THREE.

YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOING.

I'VE GOT THE MOST UP-TO-DATE NUMBERS HERE. I APOLOGIZE.

WE HAVE 19 GOING TO HAYES, 66 DISCOVERY, 17 OUT OF DISTRICT, 11 ARE UNDECIDED.

I DON T HAVE CCA'S UP THERE.

CCA GAVE THEIR OWN SURVEY AND MOST OF THE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO CCA ARE FROM CCA AND SO THAT 11 THERE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF AN ACCURATE NUMBER THERE, BUT WE'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH DAN ON THAT ONE.

WE DO HAVE 17 KIDS LEAVING US GOING OUT OF DISTRICT.

THEN THE 11 KIDS THAT ARE UNDECIDED, SOME OF THEM ARE UNDECIDED BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE ON A HYBRID PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.

LIKE THEY TAKE A COUPLE OF CLASSES AT LIBERTY AND THEY TAKE A COUPLE OF CLASSES AT CCA AND SO THEY'RE JUST NOT SURE HOW, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO ANSWER.

I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

BUT THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

>> SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THE HAYES FREEDOM NUMBER IS AMY HOLMES HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE TWO COHORTS OF NINTH GRADERS,

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ALSO INTERESTING TO NOTE IS THAT 37 OF THE ODYSSEY STUDENTS ARE GOING TO DISCOVERY AND 36 OF ODYSSEY STUDENTS ARE GOING TO CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL.

REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY IS THAT.

WE ENGAGED WITH A DOCTORAL STUDENT THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE A MEETING.

LISA IS MEETING WITH THE FELLOW NOW.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT WHY KIDS MAKE THOSE DECISIONS? WHO IS MAKING THAT DECISION? WE HAVE THIS ROBUST, LIKE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO SORT THROUGH THAT WILL HELP US GET AT WHY DO THE KIDS NOT STAY WITH THE PROJECT-BASED LEARNING CAMPUS, IS IT BECAUSE OF ELECTIVES? I ASSUME THAT IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE OF ELECTIVES, BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE, AND SO REALLY FIGURING OUT TO INFORM OUR DECISIONS.

DO WE THEN ALLOW HYBRID WITH PROJECT-BASED LEARNING TOO.

HOW WE ALLOW KIDS CAN GO TO HAYES FREEDOM AND CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, KIDS CAN GO TO CCA AND PROJECT-BASED LEARNING.

WE JUST HAVE A LOT WE STILL NEED TO DO.

BUT THIS IS REALLY EXCITING INFORMATION TO DIG IN.

I'M ESPECIALLY PLEASED ABOUT THOSE HAYES NUMBERS AND THE THING OF IT IS I CONSIDER THAT THIS HAS NOT BEEN A TYPICAL SPRING FOR US WITH BUDGET REDUCTIONS AND THE EMOTIONAL STATEMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM PARENTS AND FROM TEACHERS AND IN OUR OWN HEADS.

IT COULD BE IF PEOPLE THINK THAT A PROGRAM ISN'T GOING TO CONTINUE, DESPITE OUR ASSURANCES THAT IT WILL, THEN THAT COULD IMPACT THEIR PARENTS ALONG THEM TO SIGN UP FOR THAT PROGRAM.

I THINK THAT THESE ARE LOWER THAN THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN HAD WE NOT HAD THIS BUDGET REDUCTION IN THIS TURMOIL.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD.

>> CAN I COMMENT ON THAT? I LOVE ALL THIS DATA.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT IT'S REALLY HELPFUL AND I KNOW YOU COMMENTED ABOUT HOW SOME OF THE ODYSSEY KIDS 36 WERE GOING TO CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL.

BUT WHAT I LOOKED AT WAS THAT 15 FROM SKYRIDGE AND SEVEN FROM LIBERTY ARE CHOOSING TO GO TO DISCOVERY.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY THINK, WELL, IF I DIDN'T GO TO MIDDLE SCHOOL THERE, HOW CAN I GO TO HIGH SCHOOL THERE? IT'S HAPPENING IN BOTH WAYS AND SO WHAT'S MAKING THEM MAKE THAT DECISION AS WELL AS THE OTHER DECISION, SO THE GREAT INFORMATION.

>> YEAH.

>> CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING TOO? I THINK ALSO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHY THEY CHOSE TO GO TO ODYSSEY ALSO.

MAYBE IT'S JUST AN EXPERIMENTAL STAGE TO SEE LIKE DO I REALLY FIT THERE OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE WHEN YOU LIVE IN IT, I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN LIKE SAY PRUNE HILL, YOU END UP AT SKYRIDGE, WHERE YOU LIVE [INAUDIBLE], YOU END UP AT LIBERTY.

BUT WITH ODYSSEY, ANYONE CAN GO THERE.

MAYBE THAT'S A CHOICE THEY MAKE AND THEN THEY DECIDE THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE.

>> VERY GOOD POINT AND PART OF THIS DOCTORAL STUDENT, HIS DISSERTATION IS BASED ON EXACTLY THAT, WHY DO KIDS? WE SURVEYED STUDENTS BETWEEN THE GRADES OF 6 AND 10 AT OLIVER SCHOOLS, SO WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION.

>> YOU PROBABLY NOTICED, BUT WE DO A SIMILAR TOUR LIKE ALL THE FIFTH GRADERS GO TO ODYSSEY.

WE'VE DONE IT MULTIPLE WAYS EACH YEAR WHERE WE EITHER OPEN UP THE OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS FOR PARENTS TO COME CHECK OUT IF THEY'RE ON THE FENCE.

THIS YEAR, WE JUST LEFT IT AS, IF YOU WANT TO COME SEE IT, YOU SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT WITH US, WE DIDN'T HAVE VERY MANY.

PICK US UP ON THAT. HARD TO KNOW WITHOUT ASKING WHY.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS THAT CERTAINLY IS PROBABLY A DRAW FOR SOME KIDS.

>> THE RESULTS OF THE FIFTH GRADER CHOICES FOR THE INCOMING ODYSSEY.

>> HISTORICALLY, I CAN TALK ABOUT, BUT I DON'T HAVE SPECIFICS.

MOST EARLY ON SKYRIDGE WAS BIGGER THAN LIBERTY CONSIDERABLY, AND SO THEY RESERVED 60 SPOTS FOR THEM AND LIKE 40 FOR US OR 60 PERCENT, 40 PERCENT AND THEN AS WE GOT MORE ALIGNED, IT WAS MORE 50,50.

NOW SKYRIDGE IS BIGGER THAN US AGAIN BY A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I BELIEVE THE STUDENTS COMING FROM LIBERTY SIDE OF TOWN OR SLIGHTLY HIGHER GOING TO ODYSSEY.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO LIKE 55, 45 FROM LIBERTY SIDE OF TOWN VERSUS SKYRIDGE.

>> AN INTERESTING TO NOTE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE OUR FIFTH GRADERS DO THAT FORECASTING PROCESS NOW.

BECAUSE BASED ON INPUT FROM OUR ELEMENTARY PRINCIPALS WHO WERE LIKE, WAIT, NO, LIKE THEY NEED TO BE FIFTH GRADERS.

THEY'RE NOT FINISHED WITH FIFTH-GRADE YET AND SO THAT'S A MUCH LATER PROCESS, LIKE BEGINNING OF JUNE PROCESS.

>> BUT THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE CHOICES ABOUT LIKE THE ODYSSEY LOTTERY WENT OUT, RIGHT?

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>> YES. THE ODYSSEY LOTTERY WENT OUT AND AFTER THEY DID THE TOUR, RIGHT ABOUT THE SAME TIME ALL THIS HIGH SCHOOL STUFF WAS HAPPENING.

BUT THE ONE LIKE A HICCUP IN THE SYSTEM IS, SO YOU'RE A TYPICAL FIFTH GRADER.

YOU GET A TOUR OF ODYSSEY, BUT YOU DON'T GET A TOUR OF LIBERTY AND THAT'S SOMETHING THEY DO EVENTUALLY, LATER IN THE YEAR, IN JUNE, THEY'LL COME VISIT US.

BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE DECISION.

>> I SAW THAT FIRSTHAND AS A PARENT OF A FIFTH GRADER THIS YEAR AND WHEN SHE HEARD THAT, OH, THERE'S THIS LOTTERY FOR ODYSSEY AND WE SAID, WELL, DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE LEANING TOWARDS? SHE SAID, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE LOTTERY IS NOW AND IT'S LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON THAT SO WE PUT HER IN FOR IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS OUT WELL WITH FORECAST BECAUSE WE HONESTLY DON'T KNOW, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO CLOSE THE DOOR ON ONE RIGHT NOW.

>> THAT'S AN ARTIFACT OF STAFFING AND SCHEDULING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

PLUS TRADITIONALLY BEEN A WAITING LIST FOR YOU.

NOT EVERYONE CAN GET IN THAT WANTS TO GET INTO DISCOVERY.

THAT'S NOT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GO TO DISCOVERY CAN GO TO DISCOVERY.

>> I WILL SAY THAT AND NICOLE WILL ANSWER THIS BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT I THINK FOR EXACTLY THE REASON YOU'RE SAYING IS WHEN PEOPLE EVEN ON THE FENCE, SO THEY GO AHEAD AND PUT IN FOR IT AND THEN THEY GET SELECTED AND THEN WHEN ASKED THEY'RE LIKE, NO, I'M GOING TO GO TO SKYRIDGE OR LIBERTY AND SO THEY DO WORK THROUGH THAT WEIGHTLESS, PRETTY GOOD.

THEY FILL THEIR QUOTA, IF YOU WILL.

BUT I THINK BY THE END, THERE'S EITHER VERY LITTLE OR NO WAITLIST.

BUT IT DOES START WITH A CONSIDERABLE ONE.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS WE MIGHT ANSWER?

>> CORE, IF I CAN JUST CHIME IN AT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH AND DOREEN, YOUR WORK.

WHAT I THINK WE'RE INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO DO IS TAKE AWAY THIS SENSE OF COMPETITIVENESS, WHERE THIS IS WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CHILD, WHAT'S BEST FOR THE FAMILY.

I REALLY LIKED THAT OUR PRINCIPLES UNDER MARILYN'S LEADERSHIP HAVE COME TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'LL EVEN SAY KELLY AT CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL HAS DONE A REALLY NICE JOB TO SAY, HEY, IF I NEEDED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AS SHE HAS TO ALLOW OUR CHOICE SCHOOLS TO SHINE A LITTLE EARLIER IN THE PROCESS, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THAT'S BEEN A BIG PIECE OF THIS.

YOU HEAR GARY AND CLINT TALKING THAT SAME WAY TO THEIR KIDS AND REALLY GIVING THOSE STUDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE SCHOOLS CAN PROVIDE AN EARLY AGE.

THIS HAS TO BE A COMMUNITY EFFORT.

I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

WE HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR IN OUR DISCOVERY VISIONING MEETINGS THAT JUST AS MUCH AS WE WANT THE DISCOVERY IN ODYSSEY AND HAYES COMMUNITIES TO CELEBRATE, WE ALSO HAVE AN OBLIGATION, I THINK FROM ME TO THE REST OF THE STAFF, TO ALL OF US TO REALLY CONTINUE TO TALK HIGHLY ABOUT OUR CHOICE SCHOOLS TO SHARE THESE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I DO TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS UNIFICATION IS GOING TO BE IN THE LONG RUN, A REALLY BEAUTIFUL THING BECAUSE EVEN THE STUDENTS THAT I TALKED TO LAST WEEK AT FIRST FRIDAY, SOME OF THE DISCOVERY KIDS ARE OUT THERE.

THEY'RE COMING AROUND TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, WHETHER IT'S A HYBRID OPPORTUNITY, AN ONLINE OPPORTUNITY, A CREATIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY THERE.

BUT EVEN AS GARY SAID, THE INCOMING STUDENTS.

I'M HOPEFUL AS A COMMUNITY WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT AND CONTINUE TO SPREAD THAT MESSAGE.

SO THE STUDENTS DO TRULY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES AT A YOUNG AGE TO SAY, TO COREY'S POINT, THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO BE.

BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW AS PRINCIPALS AND HIS FORMER PRINCIPALS THAT STUDENTS DO MAKE THESE DECISIONS EARLIER THAN MAYBE WE SEEM TO THINK SOMETIMES.

MARILYN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, GARY AS WELL. JUST AWESOME.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW OUR CHOICE SCHOOLS.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS TOO BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I WAS ACTUALLY TALKING TO A COUPLE HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING THAT I FEEL LIKE I'VE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE, BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HAPPY TO SEE, IT'S THAT I EQUATE IT TO MY DAD WAS A REALTOR.

SO I ALWAYS PUT THIS UP LIKE IT'S LIKE PUTTING A SIGN IN THE YARD AND JUST ASSUMING PEOPLE WILL COME.

YOU HAVE TO DO MORE. YOU HAVE TO MARKET IT.

YOU HAVE TO DO THE OPEN HOUSES.

YOU HAVE TO GET IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE.

YOU'VE GOT TO GET PEOPLE IN THERE AND SO I FELT LIKE A LOT OF OUR STRATEGY AT FIRST WAS JUST PUT THE SIGN UP PAGE HERE, COME ON IN.

I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE WITH THAT.

I HOPE WE SEE IT MORE SUSTAINED THAT IT'S NOT JUST AROUND FORECASTING TIME, THAT IT'S THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

WE'RE FINDING WAYS TO GET THESE IN FRONT.

ONE THING THAT I'VE SEEN IN ESPECIALLY IN THESE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS OF SOME OF THE DIFFICULT COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING IS

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WE'VE ALL VISITED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR CHOICE HIGH-SCHOOLS, EVEN DOWN TO GOING IN AND SITTING IN THROUGH SOME OF SOME VIRTUAL CLASSES THROUGH CCA.

THEY'RE ALL SO AMAZING IN THEIR OWN WAY.

I'VE SAID BECAUSE I THINK I PROBABLY VISITED HAYES MORE THAN JUST ABOUT ANY OTHER BUILDING THAT THAT FOR ME, I'M LIKE THAT'S WHAT LEARNING SHOULD BE RIGHT THERE.

THE INDIVIDUALIZED INSTRUCTION AND THE SMALL CLASS SIZES.

IT'S ALL GOOD STUFF AND SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO TELL THE STORY WITHOUT IT TURNING INTO PITTING ONE AGAINST THE OTHER, AND I'LL INCLUDE CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL ON THAT, IS THAT SOMETIMES WE HEAR AND WE'VE HEARD THIS DURING PUBLIC COMMENT OR DURING OTHER EMAILS THAT WE GET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT, HOW DO WE KEEP IT POSITIVE? I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO REALLY SHOW THAT EACH OF THESE BUILDINGS, EACH OF THESE PROGRAMS HAVE POSITIVES AND IT'S NOT THAT THIS ONE IS WORSE THAN THE OTHERS.

IT'S THAT THIS ONE WORKS BEST AND REALLY IT'S LIKE CHANGING THAT MINDSET OR I KNOW I'M RAMBLING NOW AND THAT'S A LITTLE CATHARTIC AT THIS POINT.

[LAUGHTER] BUT I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO REALLY KEEP OUR EYES ON IS THAT THE POSITIVE, THE SUSTAINED POSITIVE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

>> I WAS SO PLEASED WHEN I WAS AT LIBERTY FOR THE EIGHTH GRADE LIBERTY PEOPLE AND THEN I WENT TO SKYRIDGE FOR THE EIGHTH GRADERS THERE.

JUST THE LEADERSHIP, OUR LEADERS STANDING UP THERE AND COMPLEMENTING EACH OTHER AND TALKING ABOUT, "WE DON'T HAVE THAT AT MY SCHOOL, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE IT AT YOUR SCHOOL, DON'T YOU?" JUST HOW THEY SHARED THAT SPOTLIGHT AND REITERATED OVER AND OVER.

WE WANT TO FIND THE BEST SPOT.

MAYBE IT'S NOT MY SCHOOL, MAYBE IT'S THAT SCHOOL.

THEY'RE ALL SUCH PASSIONATE LEADERS.

IT WAS REALLY HUMBLING.

>> I LOVE TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT NON COMPETITIVENESS AND I'M GOING TO ALSO TAG ONTO YOUR WORD SUSTAINABILITY.

I FEEL THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS A REAL SENSE OF PRIDE FROM STUDENTS IN THIS MOMENT AND SO I DON'T WANT TO TARGET THAT AS COMPETITIVENESS.

I WANT THERE TO BE A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR RECRUITMENT.

THAT'S WHAT SUSTAINABLE, IS THAT WE HAVE THESE FAMILIES AT HAYES.

WE HAVE THESE FAMILIES AT CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL.

WE HAVE FAMILIES AT CCA AND DISCOVERY.

EVERY PERSON, NOT JUST THE LEADER, AND I LOVE HEARING THAT THE LEADERS ARE COMPLEMENTED BECAUSE YES, WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER FOR THE BEST PLACE FOR STUDENTS.

I WANT STUDENTS TO GET INVOLVED.

WE'RE SEEING STUDENTS RIGHT NOW DOING SOME AMAZING MARKETING CURRENTLY.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT MARKETING AND RECRUITMENT.

WE NEED TO BE TAPPING INTO THIS ENERGY AND MAYBE EVEN SOME OF THESE NUMBERS WOULD GO UP EVEN HIGHER.

I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISSERTATION, THE STUDENT THAT YOU HAVE BECAUSE I AM REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT WHY HALF OF ODYSSEY GOES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND WHAT WAS IT AND ASKING, DIVING DEEPER INTO WHAT ARE ALL THESE CHOICES ABOUT? WE SEE THE NUMBERS.

I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT IT'S ABOUT BECAUSE THAT MIGHT TRIGGER SOME REAL CREATIVITY TOO IN RECRUITMENT AND OTHER AREAS THAT WE NEED.

>> IF I COULD, YOU TALK ABOUT MARKETING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO LOOK MORE INTO, AND I THINK WE ALL SHOULD PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER ON WAYS TO DO MORE GUERRILLA MARKETING, WHERE IT'S NOT JUST IN YOUR FACE BY THIS.

BUT FOR EXAMPLE, WE SHARE A SPANISH TEACHER WITH WITH HAYES AND SO WE USED TO HAVE, SHE WOULD GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.

THAT'S MADE IT HARD FOR HER AND I'M LIKE, "WHY DON'T WE JUST SEND OUR KIDS TO HAYES?" WE HAVE OUR 120 SPANISH KIDS GO OVER TO HAYES EVERY OTHER DAY TO BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THAT BUILDING AND START TO NORMALIZE THAT THIS IS JUST A BETTER PLACE TO LEARN.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MISSED OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE FOR THAT THING.

THAT'S A NICE NATURAL ONE.

BUT I'D LIKE TO FIND A WAY THAT MAYBE I CAN START SENDING MY EIGHTH GRADERS TO HAVE LUNCH AT THE HAYES FREEDOM CAFETERIA.

NOT MAYBE WHEN THE HAYES BECAUSE IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH, BUT JUST TO BE ABLE TO SEND JUST THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S NOT IN YOUR FACE, COME TO HAYES, COME TO DISCOVERY BUT HEY, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PLACE AND ISN'T THIS COOL.

I THINK IT'S ON PROBABLY ALL OF THE ADULTS IN

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>> I AGREE WITH ALL THAT.

I THINK WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR IN ANY OF THESE VIDEOS THAT I'M SURE THAT THE KIDS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT DRIVES SOME OF THERE AND PROBABLY YOU ANSWERED THEM IN PERSON.

BUT SPORTS, IF I DON'T GO TO ONE OF THESE SCHOOLS.

IF I WANT TO DO SPORTS, I NEED TO GO TO CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS NOT TRUE.

OUR KIDS CAN GO TO ANY OF THESE HIGH SCHOOLS AND DO ANY OF THE SPORTS.

I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE KIDS TO KNOW, AS WELL AS THE CREATIVITY OF LOOKING INTO IS IT DO KIDS THAT GO CHOOSE CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL OVER DISCOVERY OR HAYES OR CCA, IS IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO TAKE MORE AP CLASSES? IS IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE IN THE BAND? IS IT THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN FIND AT CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO PROVIDE THAT? LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT KIDS GOING OVER TO HAYES FOR SPANISH.

WELL, WHAT IF BAND WAS FIRST PERIOD OR LAST PERIOD AND SO YOU GET BUSED OVER IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THE MARCHING BAND OR YOU CAN TAKE THIS ONLINE AP CLASS, SO THAT WE CAN SERVE OUR KIDS WHAT THEY WANT IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY WANT.

WHEN A LOT OF THE HAYES FAMILIES AND KIDS WERE TALKING ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE AND HOW VALUABLE IT IS, WHAT I HEARD WAS RELATIONSHIP RELATIONSHIP.

SAME WITH DISCOVERY. OUR TEACHERS LOVE, WELL, ALL THE TEACHERS LOVE ALL OUR KIDS.

BUT IT'S HARDER WHEN THERE ARE 1,900 OF THEM THAN 150.

IF WE NEED TO HELP KIDS UNDERSTAND, YOU CAN GET THAT.

THE MORE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE SPOTS FOR THOSE KIDS IN A REALLY FLEXIBLE WAY THE MORE ALL OF OUR KIDS WILL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE EXPERIENCES, AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY CAN'T GET THOSE AT CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL.

BUT WHEN A TEACHER SEES 150 KIDS A DAY VERSUS THERE'S 150 KIDS IN YOUR SCHOOL OR WHATEVER.

BUT POINT BEING IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE GET THE DATA, WHY KIDS ARE PICKING HERE AND THERE, ARE THERE REASONS THAT LIKE, I'D REALLY LOVE TO GO TO THIS SCHOOL BUT BECAUSE OF THIS I FEEL LIKE THIS IS MY ONLY CHOICE AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THOSE ARE.

I'M REALLY INTRIGUED BY THE HYBRID IDEA.

>>I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT KIDS CAN TAKE CLASSES AT CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN THERE'S A SHUTTLE THAT TAKES THEM.

>> I DIDN'T NOT KNOW THAT.

>> IS THAT AN OPTION? THAT WOULDN'T BE AN OPTION FOR DISCOVERY THEN OBVIOUSLY.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

>> IT'S NOT CURRENTLY THOUGH.

>> I THINK IT CURRENTLY IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BAND.

>> RIGHT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THE MARCHING BAND, AND FOR ME COMING FROM A SMALL CHOICE SCHOOL, THE AP CLASSES AND MUSIC WERE DEAL BREAKERS FOR KIDS WHICH IS WHY WE ENDED UP PROVIDING THEM SO THEN KIDS WOULD COME AND SOME KIDS TRANSFERRED TO A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN SAY, CAN I COME BACK? I MADE A MISTAKE.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR KIDS TO BE ABLE TO FIND THEIR PLACE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO MASTER SCHEDULE.

[OVERLAPPING] IS THERE SOME COORDINATION?

>> THERE'S DEFINITELY SCHEDULED CONSTRAINTS BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, HE'S FREEDOM THERE ON A QUARTER SYSTEM AND SO THEY ONLY TAKE FOUR CLASSES FOR SURE MINUTES OR WHATEVER IT IS.

IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO LEAVE OR BE LATE BECAUSE THEY WERE THE FIRST PERIOD BAND CLASS.

>> DO WE OFFSET THEIR SCHEDULES AT ALL? IT'S LIKE DOES HAYES START AT THE SAME TIME?

>> HAYES STARTS, I THINK SLIGHTLY LATER THAN CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE UP FOR THE SCHEDULE.

NOT THAT THERE'S NOT POSSIBLE TO DO THINGS.

IT'S JUST THEIR LOGISTICAL PROBLEMS OUTSIDE OF JUST THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION.

>> SURE. YEAH. BUT THINGS WE CAN LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE TO PROVIDE A MORE FLUID EXPERIENCE.

>> WELL, ON SPORTS CAME UP EVERY SINGLE TIME WE TALK ABOUT SCHOOL CHOICE.

I THINK WE DID A GREAT JOB AS A TEAM OF SAY, OH NO.

YOU CAN GO PLAY CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, THERE'S A BUS, IT'LL TAKE YOU THERE IN FACT, YEAH.

BRING YOU HOME. THAT'S THE THING.

>> YEAH. WON'T BRING ANYBODY HOME FROM.

>> I THINK KIDS MIGHT BE MAKING CHOICES BASED ON WHAT THEY WOULD BE MISSING OUT, AND I'D LOVE TO RE-FRAME THAT OF WHY DO YOU WANT TO GO THERE BECAUSE OF WHY IS THAT EXCITE YOU? BECAUSE I WANT THOSE STUDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN MAKE ANYTHING POSSIBLE.

WE REALLY CAN.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MISS OUT ON ANYTHING.

IF YOU THINK YOU'RE CHOOSING THIS BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO X,

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I WANT TO GO HERE BECAUSE I GET A, B, AND C, I GET TO DO A THROUGH Z.

>> IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT LISTED OUT.

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH PLACE BUT AT THIS SCHOOL, HERE ARE THE BIG BENEFITS.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROJECT-BASED LEARNING, DO WE ALL REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? I THINK THAT THE VIDEO HELPED A LITTLE BIT, BUT STILL, IF I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I'M LIKE, DO I LIKE THAT? NOT WHAT KIND OF KID, BUT WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF THAT AND HOW, VERSUS THE QUARTER SYSTEM AT HAZEN, YOU ONLY TAKE FOUR CLASSES VERSUS SIX CLASSES A DAY AND JUST BE ABLE TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST IN THAT WAY SO EVERYBODY CAN BE LIKE, OH, NO, I REALLY DO LIKE THIS AND THIS STYLE LEARNING.

IT MIGHT ATTRACT KIDS IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

JUST BUST THE MOLDS.

>> ONE OF THOSE CHARTS WHEN YOU ARE A BASIC SUBSCRIBER, AN INTERMEDIATE.

YOU GET THE WORDS CHECK, CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.

MUSIC, CHECK, CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.

YEAH. FOUR PERIODS A DAY JUST DRAG.

VISUAL OF, OH, THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND IT.

>> I LIKE THAT. [BACKGROUND]

>> NO. [LAUGHTER]

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER, WHAT'S THE WORD I WANT TO USE, I THINK BECAUSE EARLIER ON, MEANING LIKE I REMEMBER MOVING HERE AND STARTING IN GRAMMAR SCHOOL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT MIDDLE SCHOOLS WERE THERE OR HIGH SCHOOL WAS THERE, LIKE THE CHOICES WEREN'T THERE.

YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO SEE ANYTHING UNTIL YOU GOT TO THAT POINT.

I WOULD LOVE TO, I THINK MAYBE DO MORE THAT WE PRESENT OURSELVES TOGETHER, THE HIGH SCHOOLS, THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, ALL OF US, TO THOSE KINDERGARTENERS, EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S FAR-FETCHED, WHATEVER.

BUT JUST THE INFORMATION YOU CAN ALWAYS SEND IT AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT IF IT APPLIES, THEN IF IT DOESN'T, THEY DON'T LOOK AT IT. THAT WAS ONE.

THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO LOVE AND HAVE ALWAYS ENJOYED IS THE TRACK, THE FIFTH GRADE END OF THE YEAR TRACK WHEN THEY GO AT DOC HARRIS, I MEAN JUST HOW EXCITED THEY ARE TO RUN TOGETHER.

THEY DON'T SEE THEM AS TWO DIFFERENT PLACES.

I MEAN, YES, THERE IS POSITIVE AND GOOD HEALTHY COMPETITION, BUT THEY'RE JUST ENJOYING.

THEN EVEN WHEN THEY'RE UP AGAINST OTHER SCHOOLS, HOW MUCH THEY CAN SUPPORT EACH OTHER LIKE LIBERTY AND ODYSSEY AND SKYRIDGE, WHEN THEY DO THE CHANCE TOGETHER, IT'S ALL VERY UPLIFTING AND I DON T THINK THEY SEE THEMSELVES AS DIVIDED OR GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

THEY'RE UNIFIED. I MEAN, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT STARTING THESE THINGS INFORMATION EARLY IS GREAT.

MY EIGHT GRADER WHEN FOR THESE THINGS AND IT JUST FELT LIKE HE JUST WENT RIGHT THROUGH AND I ALSO FEEL LIKE BY EIGHTH GRADE THEY'VE CHOSEN THEIR FRIENDS, THEY'VE CHOSEN THE PATH AND THEN AS A PARENT, YOU'RE STANDING THERE TRYING TO MAYBE [LAUGHTER] DIRECT THEM IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

JUST ANYTIME YOU CAN DO SOMETHING EARLIER THE INFO AND BY THE TIME EFFECT COMES AROUND, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT AGAINST THE SOCIAL ASPECT OF THEIR LIVES EITHER.

>> TOTALLY AGREE. WELL, I WAS EVEN THINKING, I THINK CONNIE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT DOES A STUDENT LOOK LIKE GOING IN? I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER HURDLES THAT WE'VE HEARD OF, ESPECIALLY IN THE EARLIER DAYS OF DISCOVERY IS WHAT DOES THE OUTCOME LOOK LIKE TOO? CAN YOU STILL ATTAIN YOUR GOAL OF WHATEVER YOUR GOAL IS, WHETHER THAT'S COLLEGE, CAREER, MILITARY TRADES, WHATEVER, CAN YOU STILL ACHIEVE THAT THROUGH THE DISCOVERY OR THE HAYES ROUTE? THE ANSWER IS YES.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE PUT THAT OUT THERE AS OBVIOUSLY TO SOME PEOPLE THAT THEY ASSUMED THAT THE ONLY WAY, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE FOUR-YEAR COLLEGE, WHICH IS IF WE'RE BEING HONEST, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY SEE THAT IF YOU WANT TO GET TO THOSE UPPER, THOSE ELITE LEVEL SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER THAT IT'S THE COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL IS THE WAY.

BUT WE SAW THAT LIST OF GRADUATES FROM DISCOVERY HIGH SCHOOL LAST YEAR AND THERE WERE SOME PRETTY GOOD IVY LEAGUE AND THAT STUFF ON THAT LIST.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK.

>> DISCOVERY STUDENT WAS ACCEPTED TO PURDUE TODAY?

>> EXACTLY. YEAH. IT IS POSSIBLE AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE THING TOO WITH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT MODELS IS IN A LOT OF I MEAN, YES, IT IS ABOUT THE KIDS TOO,

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IF IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME TREPIDATION THAT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT LIKE NO, THIS PROVEN FORMULA WORKS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STILL GET THIS.

I ALSO THINK QUITE HONESTLY, AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN A VACUUM.

WE'RE TALKING IN A SCENARIO OF A BUDGET REDUCTIONS NOW.

FOR ME, AS AN ELECTIVES TEACHER, MY POSITION, WHAT IT IS THAT I TEACH LIVES AND DIES BY WHETHER THE KIDS WANT TO SIGN UP FOR MY CLASS OR NOT.

IN A LOT OF WAYS, THESE CHOICE SCHOOLS ARE LIKE ELECTIVES FORECASTING JUST ON A BIGGER LEVEL.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO REALLY EMPOWER OUR STAFF AND STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND ADVOCATE FOR THEIR PROGRAMS? BOTH IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE BUILDINGS GETTING THEM SOME FACE OR MAYBE WE NEED TO GIVE THOSE STAFF AND THOSE STUDENTS MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET IN FRONT OF THOSE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THEM WHAT IT CAN BE.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

[LAUGHTER] I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION TOO.

THIS IS TALKING ABOUT OBVIOUSLY EIGHTH GRADE UP TO NINTH GRADE SHIFTS WITHIN, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T DONE HIGH SCHOOL FORECASTING YET. HAVE WE?

>> IT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW.

>> IT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW. DO WE SEE A LOT OF SHIFTS FROM CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL TO DISCOVERY OR CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL TO HAYES?

>> WE DO. DEPENDS ON YOUR DEFICIENT OF A LOT.

AS GARY MENTIONED EARLIER, HIS FREEDOM NORMALLY HAS FOUR OR FIVE KIDS AT THIS TIME AND THEN SHE ENDS UP WITH A ROBUST FRESHMAN CLASS AS KIDS COME FROM EITHER DISCOVERY OR FROM CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT SCHOOL FOR THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE, NOT BECAUSE THAT SCHOOL FAILED THEM, BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THE WRONG SPOT.

THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF FLEXIBILITY THAT I'VE BECOME AWARE OF NOW WITH CCA, DISCOVERY, HAYES FREEDOM.

I THINK HAYES FREEDOM INHERITS PROBABLY THE MOST KIDS.

I THINK THAT SCHEDULE IS SO FLEXIBLE IN THE WAY IT OPERATES ON A QUARTER SYSTEM, THE KIDS CAN RAPIDLY RECOVER CREDIT, WHEREAS THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY POSSIBLE IN A TRADITIONAL SETTING.

>> I JUST WANTED TO ADD A THANK YOU TO THE FAMILIES AND STUDENTS WHO TOOK THE CHANCE ON ODYSSEY AND DISCOVERY WHEN IT WASN'T AN UNKNOWN QUANTITY BEFORE WE HAD OUR FIRST GRADUATING CLASS LAST YEAR WITH FINGERS CROSSED.

I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD THING.

THE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ARE DYING FOR THESE KIDS.

WE HEAR THAT FROM ALL THE COLLEGE REPS COMING AROUND, "HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON YOUR APPLICATIONS.

HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE." EVERY TIME I HEAR THAT AT MY SCHOOL, I'M THINKING, YEAH, WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN GET THAT, IT IS NOT ONLY TAKING AP CLASSES AT A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL, THAT'S GOING TO GET YOU INTO COLLEGE NOW MORE AND MORE OFTEN, THAT'S NOT THE TICKET.

WE'VE HAD THESE FAMILIES AND STUDENTS WHO'VE TAKEN THAT CHANCE AND GONE THAT ROUTE AND IT'S PROVING FRUITFUL AND I THINK THAT PAVES THE PATH FOR OTHERS TO MAKE THAT SAME CHOICE.

>> THAT'D BE THE NEXT VIDEO THAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE IS THE SUCCESS STORIES.

>> RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE A GRADUATING CLASS IN EACH OF THE CCA AND IN DISCOVERY, SO I'LL BE ABLE TO START TO WRAP AROUND THEM AGAIN AND SEE, HOW DID IT WORK OUT? BECAUSE I BET FOR THE VAST MAJORITY IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL AND THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THEIR CHOICE.

WE'VE HEARD THAT. WHEN SOME OF THESE TOUGHER MEETINGS WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM HAD BEEN FORMER STUDENTS.

>>RIGHT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PARENTS THAT ARE, "I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW THIS IS YOUR FUTURE WE'RE BETTING ON.

SHOULD WE SEND YOU TO THIS SCHOOL OR NOT?" I THINK WE'VE GOT THE DATA TO PROVE.

YEAH. IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO, JUST FIND YOUR RIGHT FIT, IT'S LIKE COLLEGE.

HOW TO FIND THE RIGHT FIT.

>> FEEL LIKE THIS NEEDS TO BE LIKE SECONDARIES POP TOWA.

>> [OVERLAPPING] SECONDARY POP TOWA IS RELATED TO ONLINE ON-TIME GRADUATION AND SO TO GET AT THAT, SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE IF YOU'RE NOT ON TRACK TO GRADUATE ON TIME, WHY IS THAT? WERE YOU IN THE WRONG SCHOOL?

>> [OVERLAPPING] WERE YOU NOT ENGAGED.

>> INTERESTING. YEAH.

>> THAT ALSO LEADS US TO,

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>>THE POSITIVES ON IT.

>> I WOULD WANT TO GO AND SPEND TIME IN ALL OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FROM ALL OF THE SCHOOLS, SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO A STUDENT, YOU MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF? BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, YOU MIGHT REALLY BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS OTHER ENVIRONMENT AND HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND CHECK IT OUT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ALL OF OUR STAFF HAS BEEN EDUCATOR OR KNOWS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ALL THOSE PROGRAMS.

>> WELL, ULTIMATELY THE EIGHTH GRADE TEACHERS KNOW A LOT.

>> THEY PROBABLY KNOW THE MOST.

>> THEY DO.

>> I HOPE WHAT'S COMING THROUGH IN THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT WE AS A BOARD AND WE AS A DISTRICT ARE SO PROUD OF THESE PROGRAMS AND WE WANT TO SEE THEM SUCCESSFUL AND WE WANT TO GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GROW AND THRIVE AND BE SUSTAINABLE.

YES, THAT'S THE THING. IT'S SO TOUGH SITTING IN THE SEATS THAT WERE SITTING.

NONE OF US ARE HAVING GREAT DAYS AND WEEKS RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T THINK AT ALL WHETHER IT'S HERE ON THE BOARD OR DISTRICT OFFICE OR REALLY ANYWHERE ON DOWN RIGHT NOW WITH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO HAVE.

BUT I THINK THIS IS IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO REALLY EMPOWER ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS. BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING, I DON T THINK THERE'S A SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM OR ON THIS BOARD THAT'S SAYING THAT PROGRAM DOESN'T WORK.

WE SEE THE VALUE IN ALL OF THESE.

IF WE DIDN'T, WE WOULDN'T BE PUTTING THEM OUT THERE.

WE HAVE TO BALANCE A LOT OF THESE WITH SOME UNFORTUNATE REALITIES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

BUT WHAT CAN WE DO AND WHILE WE HAVE TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS, THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, AS AN ELECTIVE TEACHER I'M ALL ABOUT RECRUITMENT.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REALLY RECRUITING PEOPLE TO COME THERE AND REALLY GETTING PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

>> ONE LAST COMMENT.

>> YEAH.

>> ERICA, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT USING THE STUDENT ENERGY TO MARKET FOR THEIR PROGRAMS IN SCHOOLS AND TALK IT UP, I THINK IS GOING TO BE THE MOST POWERFUL TOOL THAT WE HAVE.

WE'VE SEEN SO MUCH ENERGY IN STUDENTS FROM SEVERAL SCHOOLS WHEN THEY THOUGHT MAYBE THEIR SCHOOL WAS AT RISK OF NOT EXISTING.

WE'VE SEEN SIGNS AND T-SHIRTS AND INSTAGRAMS AND ALL THAT TAKE THAT ENERGY AND HELP GROW YOUR SCHOOL IS THE BEST RECIPE FOR A ROBUST PROGRAM.

NOW THAT IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE, BUT THAT WOULD REALLY HELP INCREASE ENROLLMENT.

>> I WOULD SAY THAT'S DEFINITELY THE CASE.

THE KIDS WHO SPOKE TO YOU FROM DISCOVERY WERE THE KIDS WHO PLANNED THE TOURS WHEN THE EIGHTH GRADERS GOT THERE.

>> NICE.

>> THOSE ARE FAMILIAR FACES AND THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE HOME THAT THEY FOUND IN THEIR HIGH SCHOOL.

ARE WE FINISHED NOW? WE'RE NOT FINISHED YET.

THIS IS A TOE DIP INTO WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING.

>> EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING IS TRUE, BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO REMEMBER OR TAKE A LOOK AS A COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE BOARD, BUT EVEN THE CITY OF CAMAS.

WHAT ARE WE DOING TO HELP BRAND THINGS OTHER THAN PAPER-MAKING? BECAUSE HIS FOOTBALL SEASON ROLLS AROUND.

ALL YOU SEE IS THAT THE CAMAS SEE ALL OVER TOWN, WHICH IT'S ABOUT THE FOOTBALL TEAM AND EVERYBODY CAN BE ON THE FOOTBALL TEAM. THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ADVERTISING CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL.

IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE THE RENEGADE POSTERS UP ALL OVER TOWN.

IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE THE PHOENIX POST FOLLOW-UP TIME.

I'LL THROW IN A PLUG SOME WINE AND SOME SKY HAWK.

THERE ARE MORE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ALSO TO PLANTS.

IT'S THE OLD THING THAT AMY HOLMES USED TO HAVE TO FIGHT IT AND STILL DOES TO SOME DEGREE, STOP SAYING THE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT'S NOT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

I THINK MOST WE'RE BEYOND THAT.

BUT I THINK WHEN YOU SEE THE C'S ON THE LAMP POST, THAT'S STILL SAYING THE HIGH SCHOOL AND SO WHAT CAN WE DO AS THE ADULTS IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP MOVE THAT MESSAGE ALONG?

>> I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, IT'S COMING FROM SOMETHING THAT'S WE HAVE TO BE MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL THAT HAS 100 PLUS YEARS OF TRADITION AND THEN THESE NEW CHOICE SCHOOLS THAT HAYES BEING THE OLDEST ONE OF AROUND 20 YEARS OLD.

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I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT. ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. GARY, THANK YOU FOR BEING ONE OF THE REGULARS TO ATTEND OUR MEETINGS.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AND IT REALLY IS.

>> ARE WE STILL GOING? BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO TALK TONIGHT ABOUT ACTIVITIES IN THE LEGISLATURE THAT HAPPENED WHILE EVERYBODY WAS ON SPRING BREAK.

BUDGETS AND HOW WE NEED TO ADVOCATE FOR THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW WITH SOME EXTRA FUNDS THAT PAUL HARRIS SAID LAST WEEK AT WAZDA.

HE SAID THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN MORE FUNDS FROM THE CLIMATE CHANGE BILL OR THAT THEY REALIZE AND SO NOW IS THE TIME TO ASK FOR EXTRA FUNDS FOR SPECIAL ED.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN TOGETHER THAT WE'RE SPEAKING AS ONE VOICE TO LINDA WILSON, OUR SENATOR WHO'S ON THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE.

>> THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP, ERICA.

I FORGOT WE DO HAVE GAIL ALSO TO GO OVER SOME BOARD LOGISTICS.

WELL, FIRST OFF, I DID SIGN ON TO A LETTER COLLECTIVELY WITH THE AREA SUPERINTENDENTS FROM OUR REGION, SPOKE WITH COREY ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY.

THERE WAS ONE LITTLE HICCUP THAT WE WEREN'T IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH, BUT I HAD TO CONCEDE, IT WAS REGARDING REGIONALIZATION AND THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR NO LESS THAN A 1% DROP-OFF.

OUR DRUTHERS WOULD HAVE BEEN TO EITHER STABILIZE OR INCREASE, BUT I JUST COULDN'T GET ENOUGH SUPERINTENDENTS ON MY SIDE YET, SO MAYBE IN A YEAR OR TWO.

BUT IT DID DO A COLLECTIVE LETTER ON BEHALF OF OUR DISTRICT.

THEN I MET WITH BOTH LIZ AND DOREEN TODAY.

WE'RE FINISHING UP, I WOULDN'T SAY OUR REBUTTAL LETTER, BUT MORE TO YOUR POINT, MORE OF A INFLUENCED TYPE OF LETTER BASED ON SOME OF THE FUNDING, BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF A RETORT ON THE LEARNING LOSS.

WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LEGISLATORS UNDERSTAND THAT OUR KIDS, OUR TEACHERS, OUR STAFF HAVE REALLY COME THROUGH AND WE'VE SEEN SOME INCREDIBLE GROWTH AND CELEBRATION, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT TOGETHER.

WITH SPRING BREAK, IT PUT US ON A LITTLE PAUSE, BUT EARLY THIS WEEK, WE'LL HAVE THAT OUT.

>> THE SESSION ENDS, IS IT NEXT WEEK OR TWO?

>> IS SUNDAY THE 23RD.

>> YOU GOT ABOUT TWO WEEKS?

>> YEAH.

[C. Board Logistics]

>> ALL RIGHT. GILL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN THINGS OVER TO YOU HERE.

>> WE'RE JUST RUNNING THROUGH SOME DATES THAT ARE COMING UP WHICH WILL START BACK IN DOING AT EACH OF THE WORKSHOPS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU CAN ATTEND THE FINE DINING EXPERIENCE AT BROOMHILL, BUT IF YOU CAN, GREAT.

BUT I NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU COULD ATTEND THE APRIL 19TH AND/OR APRIL 22ND SO WE CAN DECIDE IF THAT'S MOVING FORWARD?

>> I'M GOOD ON BOTH OF THOSE.

>> YOU'RE GOOD?

>> I'M ONLY GOOD ON THE WEDNESDAY.

I'M OUT OF TOWN SATURDAY.

>> WHAT TIME ON SATURDAY?

>> SATURDAY, WE USUALLY DO ABOUT 9:00 TO 11:00 ON SATURDAY.

>> THEN THE WEDNESDAY, ONE IS 6:00 TO 8:00 OR SO.

>> I CAN'T DO SATURDAY, THE 22ND.

THAT'S WHEN I AM GONE AND I WILL BE IN SAN FRANCISCO FOR THE MONDAY, APRIL 24TH.

IF WE WANT TO ZOOM IN OR IF YOU DON'T NEED TO ZOOM ME IN, JUST DEPENDS.

>> I'LL JUST MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE 3:00 CAN DO SATURDAY?

>> HOW MANY ARE YOU AVAILABLE ON THE 19TH FROM ABOUT 6:00 PM TO 8:00 PM?

>> WEDNESDAY THE 19TH?

>> YES.

>> FOR THE 19TH, WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE.

FOR THE 22ND, FOUR OF YOU ARE NOT AVAILABLE?

>> I'M.

>> THEN WE HAVE THREE.

THAT MAKES THOSE TWO, I THINK AGO.

WE'LL GET THOSE ROLLING. I'LL GET SOME INFORMATION OUT TO STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THEN [NOISE] WE HAVE OUR WORKSHOP ON THE 8TH, REGIONAL MEETING FOR WAZDA REGION 6 WILL BE HELD HERE IN CAMAS THIS YEAR.

WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON THE EXACT LOCATION.

IT'S REALLY WORKED OUT GREAT THE LAST TIME WE HOSTED, WE MAY JUST GO AHEAD AND GO BACK THERE AGAIN.

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>> [OVERLAPPING] DISCOVERY.

>> OR PICK A DIFFERENT PLACE JUST BECAUSE WE'VE DONE HASTE BEFORE.

I DON T KNOW LOGISTIC WISE, BUT AGREED IF WE COULD DO IT THERE.

>> DISCOVERY WOULD BE THE LEARNING STAIRS THAT HAVE A BIG ENOUGH PLACE TO SEAT EVERYONE?

>> OH, YOU MIGHT NEED TO CHECK WITH WAZDA THEN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE USUALLY GET INTO TABLE GROUPS.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I'LL BE TOGETHER. BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE ARE LITTLE AREAS YOU CAN GO OFF IN DISCOVERY, BUT YOU'RE NOT ALTOGETHER.

>> LIKE THE LIBRARY?

>> [OVERLAPPING] DO THEY HAVE A LUNCHROOM?

>> NO, THOSE ARE THE LUNCHROOM.

>> THOSE ARE THE LUNCHROOMS.

>> THEIR LIBRARY ON THE SECOND FLOOR WOULDN'T BE BIG ENOUGH.

>> [OVERLAPPING]

>> OKAY.

>> MS. LAKE WOULD BE WONDERFUL, BUT IT'S PRETTY FAR OUT FOR TRAVELERS COMING INTO THE AREA.

>> IF THEY'RE COMING FROM LONGVIEW.

>> THAT'S TRUE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THERE'S ALSO CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL. THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T.

>> MAYBE THAT'S IT.

>> BUT I DO THINK IF WE COULD WORK, DISCOVERY WOULD BE AWESOME.

>> [OVERLAPPING]

>> WHATEVER. IT IS IN CAMAS, SO THAT'S ALL MY SCHEDULE.

>> WE'RE BASED ON THE SIZE.

I DON'T KNOW IN CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL, BAMBI.

>> THERE'S FOOD INVOLVED, SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

I'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT, I'VE ALREADY BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.

THEN THURSDAY, MAY 18TH, FROM 8:00 AM TO 12:00, WE HAVE OUR NEXT ROUND OF BOARD SITE VISITS.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE 17TH, ARE YOU ALL AVAILABLE FOR THAT ONE? NOT THAT YOU HAVE TO BE FOR THAT ONE.

>> YES.

>> EIGHTEENTH FOR BOARD SITE VISIT?

>> WE ALSO HAVE THE SUPERINTENDENT BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE 18TH.

>> THAT ONE'S JUST TWO PEOPLE, THOUGH.

THESE ARE MORE DATES THAT I NEED TO FIND OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN ATTEND.

>> I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT IN THE MORNING UP UNTIL MAYBE 10:00 AM.

ALSO BACK UP TO THE 8TH, I WILL NOT BE AT THAT MEETING.

>> I WON'T EITHER. THAT'S A REHEARSAL DATE FOR ME, SO THERE MIGHT JUST BE THREE.

>> IF I CAN CHIME IN ON THAT REALLY QUICKLY AND NOT SAYING TO CANCEL, BUT WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION TODAY AT CABINET AROUND THAT.

ORIGINALLY WE WERE GOING TO DO SOME CHECK-INS WITH OUR PRINCIPLES ON THEIR INSTRUCTIONAL PRACTICE AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY'RE STILL TALKING WITH STAFF AND GOING THROUGH THIS RIFF PROCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE WERE VERY UP IN THE AIR.

WE CAN LEAVE THAT OPEN-ENDED IF WE WANTED TO DO SOME SHIFTING AROUND.

WHAT DID WE END UP, GAIL, SETTLING ON THE 8TH?

>> I'VE ALREADY GOTTEN CONFIRMATION FROM ALAN FLACK THAT HE WILL BE DOING A SPED PROGRAMS UPDATE, AND THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING.

>> ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH THAT? JUST THE THREE OF YOU. THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY IS ALWAYS A BAD ONE FOR ME.

>> IT'S A SCHEDULED MEETING.

WE HAVE TO HAVE IT.

WE'LL HAVE A FORUM.

IT'S WORKED OUT, SO WE SHOULD BE FINE.

>> I SAY THAT SO THAT WAY YOU KNOW THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL FIVE BREAKING UP WITH THE PRINCIPLES THAT DAY.

WE THOUGHT THAT BACKING THAT UP WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

>> BACK TO THE 18TH BOARD SITE VISITS, ANYBODY ELSE CAN CONFIRM OR TELL ME NO FOR SURE?

>> I WILL MAKE THAT WORK.

>> I WILL SAY YES.

SOMETIMES AS IT GETS CLOSER, IT CHANGES, BUT I CAN SAY YES RIGHT NOW.

YOU ASKED A QUESTION, MARK. I WILL TRY TO MAKE IT WORK.

>> EXCELLENT. THE LAST THING THAT COREY AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE WHILE AGO IS TRYING TO PIN DOWN THE BOARD PLANNING SESSION, AND I MENTIONED TO HIM THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US GO BACK TO THE PLAN WE HAD WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN THIS POSITION, WHERE IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME DAY AS THAT JULY BOARD MEETING SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN PLAN THEIR VACATIONS.

ANY IDEAS AROUND THAT, ANY BRAINSTORMING IDEAS OF WHETHER THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR BAD IDEA?

>> I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TIME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I HAVE SOMETHING I'M SUPPOSED TO BE TEACHING THAT DAY.

>> SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE OUR ALL-DAY THING.

>> I KNOW. SO I MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TILL NOON.

>> WHICH IS FINE. WE JUST ROLL INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING THAT NIGHT.

ANN IS LOOKING AT ME, SHE'S NOT SURE.

>> I ALWAYS GO BACK AND FORTH.

I KNOW IT'S A LONG DAY, BUT I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE WE DON'T HAVE

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>> HAVING A DAY AND HALF.

>> DAY AND HALF OR HAVE THE EVENING TOO, IT CAN ROLL INTO DINNER.

ONCE UPON A TIME, WE WOULD DO THAT AND THEN WE'D GO TO DINNER AND EITHER VISIT OR CELEBRATE OR CHAT OR WHATEVER, GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER, CONTINUE THAT PROCESS NOT LIKE A WORKING DINNER, BUT I FEEL A LOT BETTER NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS WORKSHOP MODEL, THAT WE CAN HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS MORE OFTEN AND I FEEL LIKE WE CAN CHAT ABOUT IT.

BUT THAT WAS ALWAYS LIKE THE GOLDEN PIECE OF PLANNING SESSIONS THE INTERACTIVE PART.

>> WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD, WE USED TO DO IT IN AUGUST.

IT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AUGUST MEETING AND THEN LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE ASKED TO MOVE IT BACK TO JULY BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE IF WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR THAT WE'RE ALREADY OFF AND RUNNING BY THE TIME WE GET TO AUGUST, SO WE ALL STILL FEEL GOOD ABOUT KEEPING IT IN JULY?

>> A DIFFERENT DAY BECAUSE MAYBE BOARD MEETING.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M PONDERING BUT IT'S NICE THAT WE CAN COME BACK.

>> I DO THINK IT'S NICE THOUGH, MAYBE IT MIGHT BE TOO MUCH TIME IF WE DID LIKE HALF A DAY BOARD WORKSHOP AND THEN IT CONTINUED THE NEXT DAY AND THEN WE WORK OFF SITE LUNCH.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT BECAUSE I LIKE THE PLANNING DAYS. THERE ARE LONG DAYS.

I DO THINK GETTING OFF SITE FOR LUNCH OR SOMETHING JUST GETS YOU GOING AGAIN OR JUST IS A GREAT WAY TO CLOSE OUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

>> ONCE UPON A TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR OFF-SITES ONSITE. [LAUGHTER]

>> IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE AN OFF-SITE SOMETHING AND I KNOW THAT'S HARDER TO DO.#.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT EVEN IF IT WAS LIKE OFF-SITE, WE ALL GO DOWN TO LUNCH AFTERWARDS OR WE WALK DOWN TO, WHATEVER I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

>> IT WOULD BE GREAT IS IF WE COULD START A GOOGLE DOC OR SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE NEXT YEAR.

I KNOW OFTEN WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR CALENDAR FOR THE NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING STUFF COMING UP, ARE THEIR THINGS THAT WE EACH WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER AND THAT WILL HELP PLAN THE AGENDA RATHER THAN BE RECEIVING INFORMATION ALL DAY THAT WILL HELP DECIDE WHAT WE WANT, WHO AND WHAT AND WHAT INFORMATION.

BUT I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE ONE OF THE ROLES OF THE BOARD IS TO SET THE VISION OF THE DISTRICT OR SET THE DIRECTION, WHATEVER.

AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE DO THAT AS MUCH.

WE HAVE VERY TRUSTED STAFF THAT DOES A LOT OF THAT WORK THAT I FEEL WE COULD BE INVOLVED IN WHEN IT'S NOT TOO LATE, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S TOO LATE THAT IT'S LIKE HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> WHAT SIZE T-SHIRT DO YOU WANT?

>> WHAT SIZE T-SHIRT DO YOU WANT? EXACTLY. BUT JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS.

>> WHAT IF WE DID HALF A DAY ON THE 24TH, BROKE UP AT JUST A SOCIAL LUNCH, NOT CONTINUING ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BUSINESS, BUT A SOCIAL LUNCH AND THEN HAD A BREAK WHERE YOU CAME BACK FOR THE MEETING THAT NIGHT AND THEN CONTINUE THE NEXT DAY.

>> OR SINCE TRACY ISN'T AVAILABLE TILL NOON, IF WE DID THE LUNCH AND THEN A WHOLE WEEK, THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION THING I'M SUPPOSED TO BE, BUT I'LL MAKE WORK, WHATEVER.

I'LL MAKE THAT WORKOUT. BUT I DO ALSO THINK UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE AGENDA IS, IT'S HARD TO KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WE'RE GOING TO NEED.

>> EXACTLY.

>> SO PART OF IT IS LIKE A GOOGLE DOC WOULD HELP US SAY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

LIKE MAYBE SOME OF THIS LOGISTICAL STUFF WE COULD HAVE DONE AHEAD OF TIME SO IT WOULD TAKE LESS TIME.

THAT'S JUST AN OPTION. WHAT COULD WE DO AS PRE-WORK AHEAD OF TIME OR YOU MAKE IT SMOOTH?

>> OR INSTEAD OF DOING THE TWO DAYS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, MAYBE WE DO PART OF ONE, LIKE I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE JUNE 26TH IS OUR JUNE BOARD MEETING, WHAT IF WE ADDED ONE TO THAT AND THEN WE HAD SOME TIME IN-BETWEEN AND CAME BACK AND DID ANOTHER LONGER ONE IN JULY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER OPTIONS.

>> I'M TRYING NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE HERE, BUT I JUST KNOW IN THE PAST WEEK, WE'VE GOT THROUGH THE PLANNING SESSION IT'S LIKE, OH, THAT JUST DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHILE WE'RE ALL IN THE ROOM,

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>> I THINK STRATEGIC PLANNING IS A HUGE THING THAT WE WANT TO MOVE AND THAT COULD TAKE UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIME AND IT COULD TAKE UP TWO TIMES.

>> MAYBE WE DO THAT IN JUNE.

>> YEAH.

>> THEN THAT MIGHT LEAD US TO WHAT WE WANT TO DIG INTO IN JULY.

>> WE WILL BE HAVING A STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE IN THE COMING MONTHS.

IT'S ON THE SCHEDULE FOR YOU.

>> LIKE BEFORE SCHOOL GETS OUT?

>> YEP. I WAS THINKING OF THE JUNE 26TH BOARD MEETING DAY.

REGULAR MEETINGS AND THEN THERE'S ONLY ONE BOARD MEETING IN JULY.

>> THERE'S NO WORKSHOP, YEAH.

>> I GUESS THERE'S ALWAYS ONLY ONE BOARD MEETING.

>> I THINK WHAT I'LL DO FROM WHAT I'M HEARING IS SET UP A GOOGLE DOC, MAKE A PLACE FOR YOU TO ADD SOME SUBJECT IDEAS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO BRING TO YOU, AND THEN ALSO LISTS SOME DATES AND SEE WHO'S AVAILABLE AND DO ONE OF THOSE CHARTS TO SEE WHERE WE LAND. THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

>> IS WHAT WE GOT TO DO?

>> YEAH.

>> WE WANT THIS PLANNING SESSION TO BE FOR ALL OF YOU.

SO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO HELP CUSTOMIZE IT.

I THINK THAT WAS EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT.

WELL, THEN, IN THAT CASE, IT IS 6:52 PM.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN OUR WORKSHOP AND SEE YOU BACK HERE IN TWO WEEKS FOR OUR BOARD MEETING. WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.