Mar 09, 2026 School Board Workshop

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HEY EVERYBODY, GOOD TO SEE YOU. YEAH, YEAH,

[1. WORKSHOP - 4:30 PM]

SO JESSICA, WHO MOST OF YOU KNOW IS HERE, KIND OF SHADOWING SHAUNA TONIGHT, LEARNING THE ROPES. AND THEN AN AUDIENCE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE PRINCIPAL HOLMES AND ALSO ERIC FULLER FROM FULLER GROUP. AND THEN SPEAKING TONIGHT, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO FOCUS QUITE A BIT ON ASSETS AND DECISION POINTS REGARDING CAPITAL FACILITIES. SO, OF COURSE, WE HAVE SHERMAN, RANDY, AND KIM, WHO ARE...

COLLABORATING ON THIS PRESENTATION.

AFTER THAT, DEREK WILL SHARE SOME INSIGHTS ON GRAD ALLIANCE AND OUR EXPANDED PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM, AND THEN SHAUNA WILL GUIDE US THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF POLICY AND LOGISTICS. SO IT SHOULD BE A GOOD NIGHT, SO BUCKLE UP, AND I'LL PASS IT

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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, SO TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE A BIG FOCUS ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND. AND REALLY JUST LOOKING AT OUR ASSETS AND CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE SLATED AND TRYING TO COME WITH SOME. EITHER DECISIONS TONIGHT, OR AT LEAST HAVING YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT, MAYBE HAVING A DECISION AT ANOTHER MEETING. SO I'M GOING TO FIRST HAND IT OFF TO SHERMAN TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT LIST THEMSELVES. SO THESE ARE ALL OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE SLATED AND WHAT THOSE ALL ARE FOR OUR VARIOUS SCHOOLS. SO THIS YEAR WE HAVE THE LAST PHASE OF THE CAMAS ROOF GETTING COMPLETED. WE HAVE DOC HARRIS, THE RE-TURF OF THE FIELD. NEXT YEAR WE HAVE HELEN BALLER. WE HAVE ONE SECTION OF HELEN BALLER.

THAT'S PREMATURE. THE ROOF IS HAVING ISSUES, SO WE WANT TO HIT THAT SOON. SO WE JUST GET THAT ONE SPACE DONE AND THEN START. ALSO ON LIBERTY.

LIBERTY'S BROKE DOWN IN, I THINK, WHAT, ABOUT NINE, SIX PHASES. SIX SECTIONS OVER THREE YEARS. AND THEN WE HAVE, AFTER THAT, WE HAVE THE CAMAS BOILER, SO FOR THE HEATING FOR THE BUILDING. THE SECOND PHASE OF LIBERTY. AND THEN THE LAST YEAR WE'LL HAVE THE THIRD PHASE OF LIBERTY AND THEN THE SECOND PHASE OF HELEN BALLARD. WE HAVE THE PRIORITY LIST ON THE NEXT PAGE. SO THE TOP ON THAT PRIORITY LIST IS THE HELEN BALLARD, THE FINAL PHASE OF THAT BUILDING. THE TRACK THAT GOES AROUND THE PLAYGROUND HAS TREES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED ALL THOSE TREES THERE.

IT'S RIPPED UP THE TRACK THERE, SO IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE RESURFACED. SHERMAN, DID WE PUT THAT TRACK IN? THE BUILDING DID. OKAY. WHEN WE BUILT IT? YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OTHER SCHOOLS, LIKE PTAS, HAVE PUT TRACKS IN, OR HAVE PUT PATHS IN, I GUESS.

SO, BUT WE DID. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, SORRY, JUST REAL QUICK, IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE, BECAUSE I KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AT THE PARKING LOT BEHIND BALLARD THAT BALLARD AND HAYES SHARE. WE HAD TO TAKE SOME TREES OUT BECAUSE THE ROOTS WERE UP IN THE AIR. ARE WE ANTICIPATING HAVING TO TAKE OUT TREES, THEN? I GOT A QUOTE FOR THIS, AND IT'S BASICALLY RIPPING UP THE TRACK THAT'S THERE, CUTTING THE ROOTS.

TO A POINT WHERE THEY WON'T GROW UNDER THE TRACK. OKAY.

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OKAY, SO WE WON'T HAVE TO LOSE ANY TREES, NECESSARILY. OKAY, OKAY, THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THE ENTRANCE TO SKY RIDGE AND THE PARENT LOOP.

SO THIS WOULD DO THE OTHER PARTS OF THE SKY RIDGE, ASPHALT. THAT BUILDING'S ASPHALT IS IN NEED OF REPAIR.

CAMAS HIGH. AS BUILDINGS GET OLDER, THE BRICK STARTS TO LOSE INTEGRITY. THEY NEED TO GO AROUND AND FILL IN THE SPOTS THAT NEED DONE AND THEN PUT A SEALANT ON THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S THAT ONE. CAMAS HIGH, THEY DID A CARPET REPLACEMENT IN MOST OF THE BUILDING, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE TOWARDS THE OFFICE SIDE THAT THE CARPET. DIDN'T GET REPLACED AND IT'S IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT. THE CHS FENCING, YOU KNOW, THE NORTH COMMONS SIDE? WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT FENCING BETWEEN THE PORTABLES SO THAT WOULD SEAL OFF THAT PART OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN THE NORTH COMMONS, LIKE WHERE THE KIDS GO OUT TO EAT, HAVE A FENCE WHERE THEY CAN GO OUT IN THE DAY AND SECURE IT BEHIND A FENCE. THE DOC HARRIS RESURFACE OF THE TRACK, THE TRACK'S NEEDING RESURFACED.

SO THAT'S THAT ONE. AND THEN, ZACH, THE ROOF IS JUST HITTING ITS AGE NOW. IT HAS ASBESTOS UNDERNEATH. I'LL LET RANDY KIND OF EXPLAIN. AND SO THIS ROOF HAS... UP TO FIVE LAYERS IN CERTAIN AREAS, SO IT WILL DEFINITELY NEED TO BE TORE OFF BEFORE WE PUT ON NEW, BECAUSE WHEN YOU OVERLAY ROOFING, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU JUST ADD WEIGHT, AND THEN THE MORE LAYERS YOU HAVE, THE MORE WEIGHT YOU HAVE, AND WHEN YOU GET TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, YOU HAVE TO TEAR IT OFF. SO WE WILL HAVE TO, BECAUSE SOME OF THE ROOFING LAYERS IN THE VERY FIRST COUPLE WERE ACTUALLY ASBESTOS ROOFING, SO IT WILL HAVE TO BE ABATED, WHICH INCREASES THE COST, PROBABLY A FACTOR OF... 15 TO 20 PERCENT. SO IT'S NOT A HUGE DEAL, BUT IT IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT'LL EXTRA THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE SPECIALTY ROOFERS.

THEN WE HAVE SOME FURNITURE AT CAMAS HIGH AND I THINK AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT'S NO LONGER MADE. SO THE FURNITURE IS AGED OUT. THEY BREAK. AND SO THE SEATS BREAK AND YOU CAN'T GET REPLACEMENT PARTS. WE'D LIKE TO REPLACE THAT FURNITURE WITH SOME NEWER FURNITURE. WE BOUGHT ENOUGH PARTS TO MAKE IT FOR A FEW YEARS, BUT WE NEED TO REPLACE THEM. THE BUS LOT EXPANSION, IN THE LAST LEVY, OR I THINK IT WAS IN THE LAST BOND, IT DIDN'T GET TOTALLY MADE ALL THE WAY OUT.

IT BUILT ALL THE WAY OUT. I THINK THEY RAN OUT OF FUNDS AT THAT POINT. SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THAT BECAUSE IT'S FULL, THE LOT'S FULL WITH ALL THE BUS SCENE AND STUFF THERE. AND THEN THE BUS WASH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REPLACED AT THAT TIME.

IT WAS REPAIRED, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY AGED. SO WE'RE KIND OF HOLDING THE BUS WASH TOGETHER, YOU KNOW. AND I PUT IMPACT FEES ON THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS ON THE BOND. SO I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THE IMPACT. FEES FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS. SO THE TRANSPORTATION BUILDING NEEDS RE-ROOFED AND SIDING AND PAINT REPAIRS. GRASS VALLEY'S ROOF, ALL THESE BUILDINGS WERE ALMOST ROOFED AND BUILT AT THE SAME TIME. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE LIKE GRASS VALLEY AND HELEN BALLER WERE PUT IN ON THE SAME YEAR. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THE ROOFING STUFF. COMING ABOUT THE SAME AGE. CHS NEEDS SOME ASPHALT REPAIRS. I THINK IT'S TOWARDS THE BEGINNING, TOWARDS THE CIRCLE, AND THE BIG LOOP THAT GOES AROUND. THE BOOM TRUCK, WE HAVE A BOOM TRUCK LIKE THE PUD KIND OF HAS TO TRIM TREES AND THAT KIND OF THINGS. IT'S WHAT? YEAH, IT'S VERY OLD. IT'S JUST IN THE AGE, SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO IS GET SOMETHING FROM, LIKE THE PUD OR SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE... GETTING NEW STUFF AND BE ABLE TO GET A USED BOOM TRUCK THAT COULD BE USED

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QUESTION. SO WHEN WILL YOU KNOW IF WE CAN USE IMPACT FEES FOR THOSE TWO PROJECTS? BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE $1.9 MILLION, AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT FEES, RIGHT? I'LL JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH. THE ESD AND KIM AND SEE IF THAT CAN QUALIFY. I KNOW. YES. YEAH. SO ON THE NEXT PAGE, WE HAVE ABOUT 8 MILLION, 8.6 MILLION IN LEVY DOLLARS. TO HELP FUND THOSE FIRST PROJECTS. PRIORITY ONE, THERE'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, $4.9 MILLION OF ITEMS. PRIORITY TWO, THERE'S ABOUT $5.4 MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT $18 MILLION. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER PRIORITIES, BUT I JUST DON'T ADD THOSE UP UNTIL IT GETS CLOSER BECAUSE THE AMOUNTS CHANGE. JUST TO BE CLEAR, JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, WHEN YOU SAY THE LEVY PROJECTS.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE PROMISE WE WOULD DO WITH THE LEVY. SO WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO THESE THINGS.

GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE FIRST PAGE, THOSE ITEMS. RIGHT. TAKING TO THE LEVY. SO THEN PRIORITY ONE AND TWO THINGS ARE LIKE, WHAT WE USE, OUR ADDITIONAL CAPITAL. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL, ADDITIONAL CAPITAL FUNDS. GOT IT. OKAY. THANKS. SO THE SOURCES OF REVENUE WE HAVE CAPITAL LEVY 8.6 MILLION. CAPITAL PROJECT FUND. WE HAVE ABOUT $3 MILLION IN THAT ACCOUNT, AND $2.5 MILLION OF THAT IS ALLOTTED FOR TENNIS RIGHT NOW. THE KARCHER PROPERTY IS ABOUT $5.7 MILLION, I THINK, ON THE APPRAISAL. YEAH, I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. OKAY, AND THEN IMPACT FEE IS ABOUT $15 MILLION, BUT THAT'S VERY LIMITED OF WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT.

RIGHT, SO THAT IS WHAT THE PROJECT LISTS WERE FOR. AND, LIKE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE FIRST SET IS THE LEVY PROJECT. SO WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING FROM LEVY REVENUE.

BUT PRIORITY ONE AND TWO, AND THEN THESE OTHER ONES THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING HERE IN A MINUTE. ARE ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO GET COVERED IN SOME WAY FROM THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.

SO FIRST, I WANTED TO JUST TALK. BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR PROPERTIES. AND I HAVE THE MAP SITTING OUT FOR YOU GUYS. THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE, SURPLUS PROPERTIES, ARE THE KARCHER PROPERTY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SELLING, THE UL BUILDING AND SHARP. THERE'S THE TRANSITION HOUSE, WHICH IS IN DOWNTOWN CAMAS, AND THEN THERE'S THE FORMER DNR PROPERTY UP THERE BY GREEN MOUNTAIN THAT WE HAVE AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE THAT WE AREN'T UTILIZING AS A SCHOOL SITE AT THIS TIME. HERE'S THE MAP, AGAIN, OF WHERE THOSE ARE AT.

SO YOU GOT KARCHER, WHICH WE'RE SELLING RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THE UL LEADBETTER SITE, SHARP AND THEN DNR, AND THEN THE FIFTH ONE IS DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT ON THIS MAP FOR THE THE TOWN THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN. SO, SO, AS MENTIONED HERE BY SHERMAN, THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IS THE $8.6 MILLION IN LEVY PROJECTS, THE USTA PROJECT OF $2.5 MILLION ROUGHLY, THE PRIORITY 1 PROJECTS OF $4.9 MILLION, THE PRIORITY 2 PROJECTS OF $5.4 MILLION, AND THEN THERE'S THESE REMAINING PROJECTS THAT JUST KEEP BUILDING, RIGHT? AS TIME GOES ON, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ADDING TO THAT, BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S ROUGHLY AROUND $2.2 MILLION. SO A TOTAL OF $23.7 MILLION WORTH OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. HERE'S THE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE THAT $8.6 MILLION TO COVER THE LEVY REVENUE OR THE LEVY PROJECTS. THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND ITSELF, WE HAVE $3 MILLION TOTAL, AND $2.5 MILLION OF THAT HERE IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED FOR USTA. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A SORRY, DRAWING A BLANK ON THE ESTIMATE. THE APPRAISAL WAS $5.79 MILLION FOR THE KARCHER SALE. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT RIGHT NOW, SO AT THIS POINT, I'M JUST PUTTING

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SO WE HAVE $32.8 MILLION IN REVENUES, BUT OVER HALF OF IT IS VERY SPECIFIC IN WHAT WE CAN SPEND IT ON.

SO, SCENARIO ONE, UTILIZING KARCHER'S PROCEEDS FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS. YOU CAN SEE I ALIGN THE LEVY REVENUE WITH THE LEVY PROJECTS. THE CAPITAL PROJECTS REVENUE OF $3 MILLION, 2.5 OF IT GOES TO USTA, AND THEN HOLD THE OTHER $500,000 FOR EMERGENCIES THAT WE HAVE.

THAT'S REALLY NOT ADEQUATE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE AT THIS POINT. AND THEN THE KARCHER SALE OF $5.8 MILLION.

IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE MORE THAN THAT, BUT JUST DOING IT. OFF. THE APPRAISAL, ROUGHLY $200,000 TO THE BROKER, BASED ON OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM, AND THEN THE PRIORITY 1 PROJECTS. IF WE WERE TO JUST FOCUS ON THE CARTRIDGE PROCEEDS GOING TO SCHOOL PROJECTS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COVER THE PRIORITY 1 PROJECTS OF $4.9 MILLION. AND THEN WE WOULD.

ALSO, AS YOU CAN TELL, IF YOU TAKE $4.9 PLUS THE $200, THAT'S $5.1 MILLION.

BUT WE HAVE 5.7. THAT REMAINING AMOUNT COULD ALSO GO INTO JUST THE RESERVE FOR EMERGENCY, RIGHT? GET THAT EMERGENCY BACK UP TO AT LEAST A MILLION. SO WHAT WE STILL DON'T HAVE COVERED YET FOR REVENUES, AND THIS IS AFTER SPENDING ALL OF THE SALE REVENUE OF KARCHER. WE STILL HAVE PRIORITY TWO PROJECTS TO TAKE CARE OF THE REMAINING PROJECTS THAT KEEP BUILDING OF 2.2. SO A TOTAL OF $7.7 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS FOR SCHOOL SITES.

AND AS YOU CAN TELL, ALSO THESE ARE PHASED OUT PROJECTS. WE CAN'T EVEN DO THEM AT THIS POINT IN TIME AT ONCE, RIGHT? YOU SAW? LIKE THE ROOF PROJECTS, WE'RE DOING IT IN THREE PHASES. WE CAN'T EVEN DO IT ONCE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY. AND THIS IS TYPICAL AT A SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT IF WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE COMING IN, WE COULD ACTUALLY GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS DONE FASTER.

BECAUSE THE LONGER WE WAIT, ESPECIALLY LIKE ON THE ROOF PROJECTS, OTHER MAINTENANCE PROBLEMS ARE GOING TO START HAPPENING. AND THEN IT MAY COST US EVEN MORE TO TAKE CARE OF THESE THESE FACILITIES, BECAUSE WE MAY UNCOVER WHATEVER HAPPENS WHEN YOU PULL OFF THE ROOF AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THE SOONER WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THESE PROJECTS, THE BETTER, BECAUSE THEY CAN EVEN BE MORE COSTLY DOWN THE ROAD. AND THEN I DO AN ASTERISK OF THE IMPACT FEE REVENUE, JUST A REMINDER THAT THAT MONEY CANNOT BE USED FOR THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS. EXCEPT FOR POSSIBLY THE 1.9 MILLION.

BUT THAT WAS IN PRIORITY, TOO, AND SO THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THIS EVEN CONSIDERATION.

CAN YOU JUST REFRESH WHAT WE CAN'T, GENERALLY WHAT WE CAN USE IMPACT FEES FOR? IT'S FOR FUTURE GROWTH, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. CORRECT. WE NEED TO FIND SOME PROPERTY TO BUY.

PROPERTY WOULD BE IDEAL, YES, IDEAL. SO THEN I WANTED TO BREAK DOWN UL'S EXPENDITURES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BEEN INCURRING WITH THAT SITE. SO ANNUAL OPERATIONAL COSTS, AND THIS IS JUST FOR UTILITY COSTS AND INSURANCE COSTS ONLY, $175,000 AND $40,000, SO A TOTAL OF $215,000 ANNUALLY THAT WE'RE PAYING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. TO JUST HAVE THE UL BUILDING SITTING THERE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME UTILITIES GOING ON IN THERE, AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO COVER THE INSURANCE. SO AS OF TODAY... THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE SPENT ON THAT SINCE WE PURCHASED IT HAS BEEN ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS IN THOSE COSTS. EXPENDITURES TO DATE OUT OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND FOR THIS SITE HAVE BEEN SOME MISCELLANEOUS SITE PURCHASING, REMODELING EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDED TO BE UPGRADED IN THE UL BUILDING, SOME SITE IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN THAT WHOLE LSW ARCHITECT PLANNING ON WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THIS SITE WHEN IT WAS FIRST PURCHASED. JUST ROUGHLY UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS HAS BEEN SPENT TODAY ON CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, SO TWO MILLION TODAY ON UL EXPENDITURES. AND THEN WE HAVE A LIST HERE FROM RANDY AND SHERMAN ON THE FUTURE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES THAT ARE GOING TO NEED TO HAPPEN FOR THE UL BUILDING. AND THAT LIST OF PROJECTS AMOUNTS TO 4.5 MILLION DOLLARS.

OF COURSE, THE LARGEST ONE IS THE ROOF REPLACEMENT, BUT ALL OF THOSE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT BUILDING FOR FUTURE USE, WE WOULD NEED TO INCUR THAT. SO WHEN GEORGE WAS HERE FOR THE LOVELY MONTH AND A HALF, I THINK, THAT I GOT HIM, HE DID SOME GREAT WORK AND CREATED THIS SCENARIO FOR US IN REGARDS TO THREE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD DEAL

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SO LET'S SAY WE GET, I DON'T KNOW, $10,000 A MONTH, AND IT'S $1,000 A MONTH.

IN UTILITIES. $9,000 WOULD NEED TO GO INTO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, AND $1,000 CAN GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO HELP COVER THOSE UTILITY COSTS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN NOTICING PEOPLE MENTIONING IN VARIOUS MEETINGS THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT ALL THAT MONEY COULD GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEY'RE PROBABLY THINKING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE OF THE VERY SMALL LEASE THAT WE HAVE, YOU CAN SAY THAT IT'S ALL COVERING THE UTILITY COSTS. SO LIKE COURTS FOR KIDS, IT'S...

THAT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT, AND WE CAN JUSTIFY IN PUTTING ALL OF THAT REVENUE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE PROBABLY THAT THOUGHT PROCESS WAS COMING IN.

BECAUSE ALL THE LEASE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE INCURRED TO DATE, WE HAVE PUT IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND IT'S ALL JUSTIFIABLE BECAUSE, AS YOU SAW, THE UTILITY COSTS AND THE INSURANCE COSTS FOR THE BUILDING, WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING IN $200,000 A YEAR. SO IT'S NOT ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM FOR THE GENERAL FUND? WE'VE BEEN SORT OF HEARING LIKE, OH, IF WE HOLD ON TO THE BUILDINGS AND LEASE THEM, THEN THAT RENT CAN GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND. SO, NOT THE CASE. NO. JUST TO COVER OUR EXPENSES. SO REALLY, IT'S JUST PUTTING MORE INTO CAPITAL FUNDS. EXACTLY.

YOU CAN PUT $200,000 IN, LIKE, IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I SAID, THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING TODAY, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN ALSO PUT YOUR MAINTENANCE COSTS. SO YOU CAN EVEN UP IT MORE THAN THAT. I DIDN'T EVEN PUT THAT.

INTO IT, LET'S JUST SAY ANOTHER $100,000. AND SO YOU COULD PUT $300,000 INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO COVER THAT. AND SO IT WILL AT LEAST HELP COVER THOSE COSTS. SO YOU'RE WASHED THERE, AT LEAST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN WASHING THAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT THE REMAINING OF IT IS REQUIRED THROUGH RCW TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND OR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND. AND THEN IT DOES. WELL, BUT KIND OF. I MEAN, YES AND NO, BECAUSE IT DOES, WE COULD USE, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FURNITURE, LIKE FURNITURE REPLACEMENT, RIGHT? SO THE FUNDS GENERATED FROM THAT COULD GO TO ASSIST WITH THAT, WHERE WE COULD PAY FOR FURNITURE EITHER OUT OF CAPITAL OR OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, RIGHT? YEAH, SO YOU COULD BE MOVING SOME OF THOSE GENERAL FUND COSTS.

YEAH, SO IT MIGHT FREE UP SOME GENERAL FUNDS SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MONEY GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT'S FREEING UP FOR OTHER THINGS.

BUT I'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, OH, IF WE KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ON THE ONE HAND, WE'RE NOT IN THE REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT BUSINESS AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT WE THOUGHT, OH, WELL, IF WE HANG ON TO THESE AND LEASE THESE BUILDINGS OUT VERSUS SELL THEM, THAT'S A REVENUE STREAM THAT COULD GO INTO OUR GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS NOT CORRECT, OTHER THAN WHAT'S COVERING OUR EXPENSES. RIGHT. SO THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE POSITIVES FOR HOLDING ON TO THE BUILDINGS AND LEASING THEM OUT VERSUS SELLING. SO THAT LOGIC NEEDS TO COME OFF ONE OF THOSE COLUMNS OF PROS AND CONS OF KEEPING VERSUS SELLING.

YEAH, JUST KNOWING THAT YOU ARE GETTING THE REVENUE IN A DIFFERENT AREA, SO THERE'S LIMITATIONS TO IT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BE MORE— IT'S NOT A GENERAL FUND REVENUE. TECH LEVY. SO INSTEAD OF IT BEING WHERE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IT FOR TECH, SAFETY, AND CAPITAL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD FOCUS MORE OF IT BEING ON TECH AND SAFETY. AND SO...

YOU COULD BE MOVING MORE OF YOUR TECH AND SAFETY STUFF FROM THE GENERAL FUND OVER INTO THAT LEVY TO HELP.

GOTCHA. YEAH. SO IT'LL IMPACT.

LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, COREY, THERE'S OTHER CREATIVE WAYS TO, IT'S ALL GREAT MONEY, BUT YES, IT SHOULD BE CLEAR THAT IT CAN'T JUST BE ALL HOARDED IN THE GENERAL FUND.

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BUT NORMALLY, THEY'RE SMALL LEASES. SO YOU'RE USUALLY SEEING THE MAJORITY OF THE REVENUE, IF NOT ALL OF IT, GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE IT IS SO SMALL.

AND YOU COULD JUSTIFY THAT IT'S COVERING ALL OF THOSE MAINTENANCE COSTS.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A UL BUILDING, THAT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO JUSTIFY.

TO THE AUDITORS THAT, YEAH, THIS ALL NEEDS TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THEN, SO ON COLUMN ONE, THE NEXT LINE IS THE POTENTIAL SALE REVENUE OF ROUGHLY $5 MILLION. YOU KNOW, WHEN TALKING WITH LSW, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE OF DEALING WITH THE ROAD. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN A ROAD FOR THAT CORNER LOT. IF WE WERE TO DO THAT AT LEADBETTER. OR IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY DO THAT.

EITHER WAY, WE HAVE TO REDUCE THE SALE PRICE OR WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN, AND THAT ALONE IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST $1 MILLION, $1.5 MILLION, JUST TO DO THAT ROAD. SO THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THAT SALE REVENUE.

AND THEN THE RETAINED ASSET VALUE IS JUST SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE RETAINING THE BUILDING, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY THAT'S $12 MILLION.

SO, THE NET INVESTMENT RETURN, IF YOU DON'T FACTOR IN THE RETAINED ASSET VALUE, YOU'VE GOT A $7.4 MILLION LOSS.

AND KEEPING THE UL BUILDING AND LEASING IT AND SELLING THE CORNER.

BUT IF YOU FACTOR BACK IN, WELL, WE STILL HAVE THE UL BUILDING STANDING THERE, THEN YOU HAVE $4.6 MILLION.

THE SECOND COLUMN IS ON SELLING ALL OF THE LAND, INCLUDING THE UL BUILDING, SO SELLING IT ALL. YOU GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LINE ON THAT ONE, AND THAT'S A $3.4 MILLION, $3.5 MILLION PROFIT.

AND THEN RETAINING, AND I SHOULD CLARIFY ON THAT, THAT IS WITH PUTTING IN THE SUNK COSTS. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE SUNK COSTS HAVE COME AND GONE. THEY'RE NOT THERE, YOU KNOW. YEAH, SO REALLY, WE'RE BRINGING IN $18 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN LESS. THE BROKER FEES AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO GET THE PROPERTY SOLD.

BUT THIS IS WITH FACTORING IN THOSE SUNK COSTS. AND SO IT'S NICE TO KNOW WHAT WE'VE SPENT TO DATE ON IT, BUT ALSO THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR REAL CASH WOULD BE IN OUR ACCOUNT. WE WOULD HAVE THE $18 MILLION. BUT THAT $18 MILLION WOULD ALL BE IN THE CAPITAL FUNDS, WHICH IS A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND. WHICH, HOWEVER, IF YOU RECALL BACK FROM THIS LIST, WE STILL HAVE $7.7 MILLION IN PROJECTS THAT WE CAN'T COVER. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUTURE PLANS OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE SLOW DRIPPING, AS I LIKE TO CALL IT, OF THE LEVY PROJECTS. BECAUSE YOU'RE REALLY PHASING OUT YOUR, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO ONE PORTION OF THIS ROOF AT A TIME. EACH YEAR FOR THE FOUR YEARS AND SO, BUT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEM DONE. BUT IT IS OVER ANOTHER FOUR YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. THE NEXT SET OF PROJECTS WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL 2030 TO 2034 2035. SO YOU'RE REALLY, YOU JUST KEEP PUSHING THINGS OUT AND THERE'S GOING TO EVEN BE MORE COST BY THAT TIME. AND THEN THE FINAL ONE IS JUST RETAINING THE PORTION OF THE LAND, SELLING THE UL BUILDING AND THE CORNER LOT. SO THERE'S JUST PIECES OF THE LAND THAT WE WOULD BE KEEPING. AND SO THAT SCENARIO WAS A LOSS OF ALMOST $4 MILLION GOING THAT WAY. BUT AGAIN, WITH THE SUNK COSTS AND THE POTENTIAL SALE, THERE WOULD BE... A LITTLE BIT MORE REVENUE, BUT ALL YOU WOULD BE DOING IS RETAINING THE LAND.

AND THIS IS JUST MY OWN PERSONAL POINT OF VIEW. SO I WANT TO STATE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD THEN START GETTING INTO PARKS AND REC IS MORE.

WHAT THE LAND WOULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR IS TO CREATE MORE PARCELS FOR US TO HAVE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH LAND NOW TO DO THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE NEED TO DO AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT.

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A HIGH SCHOOL ON IT, A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL ON IT, EVEN IF WE GOT RID OF THE UL BUILDING ITSELF, RIGHT? I THINK WE COULD STILL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD STILL FIT BECAUSE WE DID THAT WORK.

REMEMBER ONE TIME WE PUT ALL THOSE PIECES ON A MAP TOGETHER AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE COULD FIT A HIGH SCHOOL ON THERE. WE GOT RID OF THE BUILDING. I'M NOT SURE WE'D STILL HAVE ROOM FOR A HIGH. IT WOULD BE REALLY CLOSE FOR WHAT'S NEEDED FOR A COMPANY. AND, LIKE, ALL WRAPPED AROUND A BUSINESS OR SOMETHING.

BUT THERE WAS ALSO, CONNIE, SOME THOUGHT AROUND REMODELING SKY RIDGE, MAYBE CONFORMING THAT INTO A MIDDLE HIGH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO HOW MUCH LAND IS LEFT.

WITH THE NINE ACRES SOLD AND THE UL BUILDING SOLD, WHAT'S LEFT THERE. WE COULD PROBABLY DO THE QUICK MATH, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY CLOSE TO NOT BEING ABLE TO DO A FULL COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOL.

LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, IT COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE IT'S AN ADD-ON FOR SKY RIDGE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BE MAKING, YOU KNOW, $11 MILLION OFF OF THAT PROJECT. SO THAT WOULD ALSO HELP IF YOU WERE TO JUST DO THAT SCENARIO WHERE YOU'RE SELLING THE UL BUILDING IN THE CORNER LOT, BUT KEEPING THE LAND OVER BY SKY RIDGE. YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BE MAKING A PROFIT OFF OF THAT THAT YOU COULD USE TOWARDS CAPITAL PROJECTS. MY MAIN FOCUS ON THIS IS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND AND OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOR SCHOOLS.

AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE? AND THE CHALLENGE OF, YEAH, WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM AND KNOWING THAT WE DO HAVE THESE PARCELS. THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY SELL TO TRY AND ASSIST US WITH NOT ONLY OUR CURRENT PROJECTS, BUT ALSO HAVING A PROPER RESERVE FOR FUTURE FUTURE PROJECTS.

THAT WE WILL HAVE BECAUSE WE WILL RUN OUT OF PROPERTY AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE ANY. AND REMEMBER, WE STILL HAVE THAT, UM, 15 MILLION DOLLARS IN IMPACT FEES THAT WE CAN USE TO GO BUY OTHER LAND AS WELL.

THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR A HIGH SCHOOL SITE SO THAT WE COULD STILL HAVE THE EXPANSION FOR SKY RIDGE. BUT THEN GO AND TRY AND FIND A DIFFERENT SITE THAT WE THINK WOULD BE SUITED FOR A HIGH SCHOOL. I THINK I WOULD JUST BE NERVOUS SELLING ALL OF OUR LAND WITHOUT HAVING MORE LAND PURCHASED, YOU KNOW, IF WE SOLD THIS UL AND THEN WE AREN'T LIKE, LIKE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE THE DNR LAND THE VALUE IS, AND AND IF WE CAN SELL THAT AND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT MONEY. BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS LIKE A SUCH. THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME WHERE WE COULDN'T PUT THAT INTO CAPITAL, RIGHT? WE HAD TO HOLD IT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ALL THAT WORKED.

BUT IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S WORTH, BECAUSE IF WE'VE KIND OF DECIDED THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY TOUGH SITE TO BUILD A SCHOOL ON, THEN THAT SHOULD BE ONE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT. GETTING RID OF, I THINK, BEFORE WE GET RID OF UL LAND, WHICH IS MORE SUITABLE AND MORE CLOSE IN, I GUESS. I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW WITH THAT PARCEL, JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE COUNTY, IT'S NOT. AND UM, THERE'S ALREADY ISSUES WITH JUST TRYING TO GET THIS COMP PLAN APPROVED BECAUSE OF ALL THE SELLING OF THE AG LAND AND THE FOREST LAND. AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT IN, UH, FORGET THE THE ACRONYM THAT, UM, THEY USE. BUT THE COUNTY'S TRYING GET SOMETHING IN PLACE. THEY STILL HAVE NOT PUT THE COMP PLAN UP TO THE STATE YET, AS WE ALL KNOW. UM, I WANT TO CALL IT LIKE TDRS, I THINK, IS WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT IT IS.

AND IT'S, UM, A WAY TO, LIKE, BUY CREDITS SCENARIO, LIKE YOU DO FOR LIKE, WETLANDS AND STUFF. TO WHERE? IF YOU ARE GOING TO UTILIZE THIS FARMLAND OR FOREST LAND THAT YOU'RE PURCHASING SOME SOMEWHERE ELSE? THAT STAYS FOREVER AS THAT, LIKE IT'LL PERMANENTLY. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LIKE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, LIKE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THAT KIND OF STRUCTURE. THAT USUALLY TAKES A LONG TIME TO DO. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING

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BUT WE COULD SELL IT, LIKE, AS IS, RIGHT? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VALUE OF IT IS RIGHT NOW. LIKE, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF IT RIGHT NOW? AND NOT WAITING FIVE YEARS, OR HOWEVER LONG, FOR IT TO BE IN THE... IF IT'S NOT VALUABLE TO US RIGHT NOW, THEN...

YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE BOUGHT IT FROM DNR. IF WE CAN, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK TO THEM. YEAH, I WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK MORE INTO THAT ONE. THEN, SCENARIO TWO IS UTILIZING CAR-TRA PROCEEDS FOR PREPARING THE ULES. SO THE SCENARIO ONE WAS UTILIZING ALL THE CAR-TRA PROCEEDS TO COVER WHAT ENDED UP BEING PRIORITY 1 PROJECTS. THIS SCENARIO SAYS, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT FOR PRIORITY 1 PROJECTS.

INSTEAD, WE WANT TO UTILIZE IT TOWARDS GETTING THE UL BUILDING. READY FOR LEASE? AND OF COURSE, YOU COULD DO A SCENARIO THREE WHERE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO USE PARTIAL THIS, PARTIAL THAT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS SEE A SCENARIO WHERE IT WAS JUST GETTING THE UL BUILDING PREPARED. AND AGAIN, THE LEVY REVENUE GOES TO LEVY PROJECTS, CAPITAL PROJECTS, FUNDS GO TO THE USTA AND HOLDS FOR EMERGENCIES. AND THEN THE CART OR SELL REVENUE WOULD GO TOWARDS THE BROKER EXPENSE.

AND THEN THE UL PROJECT COST FOR LEASE, WHICH IS 8.9 MILLION, AND OBVIOUSLY WE ONLY HAVE 5.8 MILLION THAT WE'D BE GETTING FROM THE REVENUE. SO, AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'RE NOT COVERING ABOUT THREE MILLION DOLLARS OF THE COST THAT WOULD BE NEEDED IN ORDER TO GET UL BUILDING JUST TO A POINT WHERE IT'S LEASEABLE. I MEAN, WE COULD NOT DO THE ROOF, BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO GET DONE, SO YOU'RE NOT DOING ANY PRIORITY ONE PROJECTS. YOU'RE STILL NOT GETTING THE UL BUILDING AT A LEASABLE STATE. THIS IS JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW.

THESE ARE THE COSTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN JUST GETTING THE UL BUILDING TO A LEASABLE STATE. AND THIS... SO WHAT I SHOWED YOU BEFORE WAS THE $4.5 MILLION IN CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. THE OTHER AMOUNT TO GET TO THAT $8 MILLION IS ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE BUILDING ITSELF TO MAKE IT LEASEABLE TO A CLIENT. LIKE, RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALL OPEN SPACE. THERE'S NO WALLS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.

YEAH, SO THAT'S $2 MILLION FOR THE HVAC CONTROL. SO THERE IS THAT COST FOR THE UL. AND THEN THE SHARP, I DID A SCENARIO THREE.

THERE'S SCENARIO THREE, OKAY.

SO THEN THE SHARP EXPENDITURES, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

WITH YOU. THE ANNUAL COST FOR THAT BUILDING IS $68,000.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S JUST STARTED THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN IN USE, BUT JUST MORE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT, ALL RIGHT, ARE WE GOING TO LEASE THIS BUILDING? THE FUTURE COSTS, CAPITAL COSTS, THERE'S ABOUT $2 MILLION IN HVAC REPAIRS, FIRE SYSTEM UPGRADES, ELEVATOR UPGRADE, AND THEN THE ROOF REPLACEMENT.

NOT ALL OF THESE HAVE TO HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE, BUT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME OF THE FIVE-YEAR TIME FRAME, THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN FOR SHARP. SO SCENARIO THREE IS UTILIZING, YEAH, I THINK I NEEDED TO HAVE, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY. I, I DIDN'T GET TO RUN THROUGH THIS BEFORE I CAME HERE, SO THIS WAS YESTERDAY. I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY, SCENARIO THREE NEEDED TO BE BEFORE THAT SLIDE. SO THIS LAST SCENARIO IS UTILIZING CAR-TRA PROCEEDS.

FOR THE SCHOOL PROJECTS, SELLING THE UL PROPERTY AND UTILIZING THE PROCEEDS FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS AND FUTURE CAPITAL RESERVES, AND UTILIZING THE IMPACT FEES FOR NEW LAND. AND SO THIS FINAL SCENARIO SHOWS, AGAIN, THE LEVY PROJECTS, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND STILL BEING USED FOR THE USTA CARTER SALE. GOING TOWARDS PRIORITY ONE PROJECTS AND THEN REPLENISHING THE EMERGENCY FUND, THE UL CELL WOULD HELP COVER THE PRIORITY TWO PROJECTS. THE REMAINING PROJECTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SLATED AND THEN ALLOW FOR THERE TO BE 10 MILLION

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WITHIN THREE YEARS IN ORDER TO NOT LOSE IT, AND THEN ANOTHER 2.3 MILLION A YEAR LATER. ANOTHER IN ORDER TO NOT LOSE THAT. BECAUSE OF, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THAT 10-YEAR TIME FRAME.

RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY.

AND THEN I JUST PUT IN THERE THE CURRENT ANNUAL GENERAL FUND COSTS FOR THE UL AND SHARP BUILDING, JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE SPENDING ALMOST $300,000 ANNUALLY FOR BOTH OF THOSE BUILDINGS. JUST AS YOU GUYS KNOWING, THAT'S WHAT THE COST IS TO HAVE THOSE BUILDINGS. AND THEN WE'RE NOT EVEN FACTORING IN STAFF TIME FOR MAINTAINING THOSE BUILDINGS.AND THAT IS IT.

SO THOSE WERE KIND OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, SO THAT YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF EDUCATED ON WHAT THE COSTS ARE RIGHT NOW FOR OUR PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.

ANOTHER THING, TOO, IS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CAPITAL PROJECT STUFF COMES FROM NOT ONLY THE TECH LEVY, BUT BONDS. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR BONDS ARE REALLY KIND OF SET FOR QUITE AN EXTENSIVE PERIOD OF TIME. SO TO GO OUT FOR ANOTHER BOND ISN'T SOMETHING ALSO THAT'S REALLY FEASIBLE IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS FOR US.

SO IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT LIKE A 10-YEAR TIME FRAME RIGHT NOW, THESE ARE THE SCENARIOS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. ANY QUESTIONS? SO, SCENARIO TWO, LEASING UL. WHAT'S THE MARKET RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, I GUESS, WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD? YOU INVEST THE MONEY AND YOU GET THAT $10 MILLION IN 10 YEARS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE OPTION THAT YOU PRESENTED UNDER ONE? THAT IS, IF WE LEASE UL. I THINK IT'S A HUGE STRETCH TO GET THAT POTENTIAL LEASE REVENUE. THAT MEANS, LIKE, IN THREE YEARS, WE HAVE IT ALL SET UP AND READY TO GO, AND WE GOT TENANTS COMING IN JUST FROM WORKING AT THE PORT. IT'S SUCH AN UP-AND-DOWN CYCLE. YOU LOSE TENANTS. THEY COME IN, AND FOR A UL BUILDING, THE WAY IT'S ARRANGED, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. I MEAN, I... ALSO, THROW IN, AND DEREK, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THAT HAVE GONE IN AND OUT. IS IT AROUND 50 DIFFERENT POTENTIAL TENANTS THAT HAVE ALL BEEN INTERESTED BUT HAVE TURNED US DOWN, AND MAINLY JUST BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS, I'LL USE THAT WORD, OF THE BUILDING? IT'S JUST A REAL TRICKY MARKET FOR THAT BUILDING. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, BUT WE'VE KIND OF STRUCK OUT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE'VE HAD THIS BUILDING. WE CAN.

IT'S UP TO YOU. 2018, 2019, 2019. SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD IT FOR SEVEN YEARS, AND WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT ANYTHING IN. WE WERE TRYING REALLY HARD IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH IT. SO IT WAS KIND OF THROUGH. GRANTED, TRUE.

BUT KNOWING THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT-WISE, JUST TO GET IT TO A LEASABLE STATE, IT WOULD TAKE ALL THE MONEY THAT WOULD COME FROM KARCHER. PLUS SOME, AND WE STILL WOULDN'T BE TOUCHING ANY PROJECTS FOR OUR SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO IT WOULD REALLY BE ALL HANDS-ON DEBT FOR UL SCHOOLS.

NO GUARANTEE OF RETURN. AND THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF DISTRACTION. SO WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? IT'S THE BUILDING VERSUS THE LAND? THE LAND IS ESTIMATED, YOU KNOW, JUST AS A ROUGH SWAG TO GIVE US SOMETHING, WAS $18 MILLION FOR ALL OF IT.

IN THE BUILDING? WITH THE BUILDING. SO WHAT'S THE WORTH OF THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW? EXACTLY. THANK YOU. IT'S $11, PLUS THE CORNER. THE $11 INCLUDES THE CORNER LOT. SO, YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S A CENTRAL PROPERTY, SO I KNOW WE HAVE $15 MILLION WE CAN SPEND ELSEWHERE, BUT WHAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY OF FINDING A PROPERTY WITH $15 MILLION? ONE CONTINUOUS PROPERTY FOR A HIGH SCHOOL IN THE FUTURE. OUR BROKER'S HERE WITH US. CAN WE ASK, MR. FULLER TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS?

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THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RETAINS 20 ACRES AND SELLS THE WHOLE.

FOLKS, I THINK, THE PROBABILITY OF FINDING A BUYER IN 12, 18 MONTHS. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH CULTURE. UP DEMAND.

BECAUSE OF THE REZONE, THIS PROPERTY WOULD REQUIRE PROBABLY TO GO THROUGH A REZONE. FOR A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL, WE NEED HOW MANY 40 TO 60 UNDERSTANDING IS ABOUT 58. HOW MANY? HOW MANY 58 ACRE PROPERTIES ARE THERE IN KAMAS THAT WE COULD EVER BUY IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS? IS THERE NOT MUCH? BECAUSE I'M THINKING, AGAIN, THE DISTANCE. IT'S SMART TO SELL, BUT IF YOU CAN EVER BUY ENOUGH FOR A COMPREHENSIVE, WE'RE FOOLING OURSELVES TO THINK WE'LL FIND THAT ACREAGE WITHIN OUR DISTRICT UNLESS THE CITY BOUNDARIES GROW, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IN 10 YEARS, AND SUFFICIENTLY THAT WE CAN BUY 60 ACRES, PROBABLY. THE FRINGE WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE CITY TO GET TO HIGH SCHOOL. BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY AREAS ON OUR FARTHER RIM, RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, YEAH, AND WE DO HAVE THE DNR LAND, BUT IF THAT'S NOT, IF, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS MORE? UM, WHICH WOULD BE MAKE MORE SENSE. FOR A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL, THE DNR LAND OR UL AT THE MOMENT, RIGHT? IF WE CAN'T FIND ANY OTHER LAND BIG ENOUGH FOR THAT, WE HAVE TO KEEP ONE OF THOSE RIGHT.

WELL, AND THAT'S ASSUMING WE NEED ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL. I KNOW, I KNOW, THANK YOU. RATHER THAN SMALLER CAMPUSES. AND, YOU KNOW, RETHINKING. EVEN IF I'M THINKING, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, WILL WE BE ABLE TO FIND 60 ACRES TO BUILD? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING IS, DO WE NEED 60 ACRES? WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, DO WE DO WE NEED? DO WE NEED THE SAME CONFIGURATION? ARE WE THINKING WE NEED THE SAME TYPE OF SCHOOL? A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL WITH ALL THE FIELDS AROUND IT, OR DO WE DO MULTIPLE, SMALLER HIGH SCHOOLS? AT ONE POINT WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT, I MEAN, THAT WAS SORT OF THE IDEA WITH DISCOVERY, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED MORE SMALLER SPECIALTY SCHOOLS AND NOT ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL. BUT THEN WE BOUGHT THE UL PROPERTY JUST IN CASE WE NEED ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEN OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR GROWTH SLOWED. AND I CAME FROM AN AREA WHERE THAT HAPPENED. THEY SOLD ALL THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THE DOT-COM BOOM CAME, AND EVERYBODY MOVED BACK IN.

AND NOW THERE'S CHARTER SCHOOLS AND PORTABLES ON ATHLETIC FIELDS AND STUFF.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HEAR YOU. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS AT ONCE TO... I'M JUST THINKING, THE ONE COMPREHENSIVE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WHAT'S ITS LIFESPAN? HOW MANY? 30 YEARS? 20? HOW LONG WILL WE BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT BUILDING? BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE ATHLETIC FIELDS, TOO.

SO YOU NEED THAT SPACE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE COMPREHENSIVE, RIGHT? I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO, I LIKE THE PROPERTY WE HAVE.

I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE BUILDING. LIKE, IF THE BUILDING IS THE NOOSE... SITTING THERE, BUT THE LAND IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT. WELL, WE COULD DO WHAT WE DID WITH OTHER BUILDINGS AND CONSTRUCT ANOTHER BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME. AND THEN TAKE THAT DOWN AND THEN TURN THAT INTO FIELDS, WHICH IS LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH BALLARD. WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT AT CHS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT SPACE. WE DO AT CHS, BUT WE'D HAVE TO CAPITALIZE, I MEAN, CONSUME ATHLETIC FIELDS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND THEN DECONSTRUCT AND PUT, YOU KNOW. HE'LL BE DEAD AND GONE. YEAH, I KNOW, EXACTLY.

HONEY. NOT A WORRY. ONE THING, THOUGH, AGAIN, JUST TO GET BACK TO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE DO HAVE, IF WE WEREN'T TO USE THE CAR-2 PROCEEDS FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS AND FOCUSED ON THE UL, EVEN IF WE WEREN'T

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RIGHT. IF WE THINK THE LAND IS VALUABLE, IF THE BUILDING WEREN'T THERE, YOU WOULD SAY WE CAN OPEN IT AS A DOG PARK NOW OR COMMUNITY SPACE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FIELDS. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO INVEST IN FIELDS. IF WE SAID, DON'T DO IT. YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, NOW IT'S PARK SPACE.

IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL SPACE WHERE TEACHERS CAN DO GARDENS. HAVE FIELD TRIPS AND WE CAN STAY LOCAL. AND YOU KNOW, SO I CAN LOOK INTO THAT TO SEE, LIKE, HOW MUCH, WHATEVER. RANDY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO? JUST CURIOUS IF WE'RE? I MEAN, BECAUSE I, I, BECAUSE I, I TEND TO. I TEND TO KIND OF CONCUR WITH WHAT MATTHEW'S SAYING, LIKE, I WANT TO MAKE IF THE. THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE JUMPED ON THIS PROPERTY SO LONG AGO IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THAT JUST DOESN'T COME ALONG. YOU TO HAVE A CENTRALLY LOCATED PROPERTY, SOMETHING THAT HAS A LOT OF OPTIONS ON IT.

BUT IF WE'RE SINKING A BUNCH OF OUR, IF A BUNCH OF OUR, YOU KNOW, COSTS ARE GOING INTO JUST KEEPING THE BUILDING OPEN. AND WE NEVER REALLY FELT LIKE, I MEAN, WE'VE SAID MAYBE THE BUILDING COULD BE RENOVATED IN THE FUTURE TO BE PART OF ANOTHER BUILDING, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO. SO, I MEAN, I GUESS IF WE'RE EXPLORING OPTIONS, I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT THE OPTION OF THAT WOULD BE. I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING ONE, TOO. I ALSO THINK BACK TO, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAD THESE GRAND IDEAS OF, US MOVING THERE RIGHT AND VACATING THIS. BECAUSE WHAT'S THE HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO UPKEEP THIS? THESE ARE REALLY OLD BUILDINGS ALSO, RIGHT, AND WE'VE CONFIGURED THEM TO WORK FOR US, BUT DO THEY WORK FOR US, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THIS IS A DOWNTOWN CAMPUS, BUT WE ALSO COULD SELL THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. I'M JUST THROWING OUT WILD IDEAS, RIGHT? THAT WAS BEFORE SHARP SHARP BUILDING HAS THE OPTIONS, RIGHT, RIGHT? ALL YOUR REPAIRS ON THE SHARP ARE LESS THAN YOUR ROOF, THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SHARP LENDS ITSELF BETTER TO ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE.

YEAH, IT'S 55,000 VERSUS 110.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP AGAIN. MY BRAIN'S GOING TO, IF THE ONLY PLACE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET 60 ACRES, IF WE DIDN'T WANT TO REPLACE FOR CANVAS, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE HERE 30 YEARS FROM NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS BECOMES PART OF CANVAS. PEOPLE OVER HERE ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO DRIVE 30 MINUTES TO GET THEIR KIDS TO A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE GOOD ROADS OUT TO. MAYBE WE WILL. MAYBE WHEN WE'RE GOOD AND DEAD COUNTY, THERE WILL BE ROADS OUT THERE. BUT I'D RATHER NOT THAT I SAY I WANT ADMIN TO HAVE TO DRIVE THE FURTHER DISTANCE, BUT WE'D RATHER I'D RATHER HAVE THE SCHOOL CENTRALIZED AND ADMIN SOMEWHERE ELSE. I'M JUST WONDERING, LIKE, IF SHARP? GETTING IT ALL UP TO SPEED IS CHEAPER THAN, OR JUST SLIGHTLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN DOING THE ROOF HERE. WHY AREN'T WE LOOKING AT THAT? WELL, AND THE SHARP BUILDING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS HARD TO LEASE ALSO BECAUSE THERE'S NOT, I MEAN, IT'D BE GREAT IF ENLITE WANTED IT, BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE.

BUT OTHERWISE, THERE'S NO PARKING FOR IT, RIGHT? AND IT'S AN EFFICIENT BUILDING. I MEAN, SHARP'S FAIRLY EFFICIENT COMPARED TO HERE, RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. I THINK THERE'S A SENTIMENTAL VALUE OF BEING HERE. LIKE TRACY SAID, YOU KNOW, THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR NEAR ALL THE SCHOOLS.

BUT ULTIMATELY, MATTHEW, YOU'RE RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK.

CAPITAL FACILITIES, WE WILL TALK WITH THEM LATER.

THEIR RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN TO REALLY START TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE OLDER BUILDINGS. AND EVEN THOUGH SHARP IS, I WANT TO SAY, IN THE 90S IT WAS BUILT, IT'S STILL 30 YEARS NEWER THAN ZACH AND HLC. I'M NOT SAYING WHAT YOU DO HERE, BECAUSE THIS AGAIN, THIS LAND IS VALUABLE AND A PRIME SPOT. MAYBE IT'S JUST YOU DON'T HAVE THE MAINTENANCE COSTS AT FIRST. SO MAYBE AS WE GROW, YOU NEED SOMETHING ELSE HERE.

BUT YEAH, JUST I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE PERSON, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT'S IDEALLY SITUATED.

AND SELLING THAT LAND SEEMS LIKE A BAD CHOICE, BUT MAINTAINING THE BUILDINGS AS BAD, IF NOT WORSE, BECAUSE IT'S BARELY KEEPING IT ON LIFE SUPPORT. YEAH. AND I ALSO THINK, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME IS KNOWING MORE ABOUT THE DNR LAND, HOW MUCH THAT, AND THEN ARE WE STILL USING THE TRANSITION HOUSE? WE DO VERY, VERY, VERY SELDOMLY. IF WE'RE USING IT, THEN FOR SURE, WE SHOULD KEEP IT.

BUT IF WE'RE NOT USING IT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP? YEAH, I'VE TALKED TO ALAN. I'LL PASS IT TO KIM, BUT I'VE TALKED TO ALAN EXTENSIVELY ABOUT IT, AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT IT.

AND STILL SERVICE THOSE STUDENTS THROUGH HLC AND SOME OTHER AREAS THAT THEY'RE LEARNING, THOSE LIVING SKILLS AND ALL THAT. RIGHT, KIM? YEAH, WE BROUGHT IT UP TO HIM. WE NEED TO WRAP BACK AROUND ON IT BECAUSE, YEAH, I COULDN'T REALLY GET A SENSE IF IT'S REALLY ESSENTIAL. YOU KNOW, IS THE HOME ESSENTIAL

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THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT OFFLINE AND CAN'T USE THE BUILDING FOR SCHOOL. SO THIS GARVER. I THINK IT'S JUST THIS IN GARVER. YEAH. YEAH. JUST THIS IN GARVER. BECAUSE, YEAH, IT CAN'T BE USED FOR EDUCATIONAL, LIKE FOR DAY TO DAY EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES.

THAT'S WHY GARVER CAN ONLY BE USED FOR AFTER SCHOOL STUFF. HLC, THOUGH, WE DIDN'T USE. THAT RIGHT, I DON'T THINK SO. SO, IF ZACH WAS VACATED AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD EITHER BE HAVE TO GO ON THE MARKET OR USE FOR OFFICE SPACE OF SOME SORT. UNDERSTOOD? OKAY, JUST NOT FOR. YEAH, NOT FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, AND I KNOW IT WASN'T ON THE LIST EITHER. BUT HLC, LIKE, WHAT'S THE UPCOMING? MAINTENANCE FOR THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO AS OLD AS THIS IS RIGHT, AND SO THESE BUILDINGS ARE GETTING REALLY OLD TO MAINTAIN. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE LIST. I DON'T THINK FOR PROJECTS HAPPENING OUT THERE, SO MAYBE IT'S GOOD.

HMM, YEAH, WE JUST THREW EVERYTHING OUT, DIDN'T WE? I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, WELL, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. WHEN'S OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS MEETING? SO MAYBE SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO THE GROUP TOO. I THINK THIS IS JUST THE FIRST TIME WE'VE REALLY PUT NUMBERS TO THESE, AND IT'S BECOMING MORE REAL ON WHAT SOME OF THESE COSTS ARE, AND SO HELPING INFORM US, I THINK. WELL, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE LEASING. THAT'S OUR WORST OPTION. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THERE HASN'T BEEN EFFORT THERE. IT'S JUST BEEN A STRUGGLE. THE AMOUNT THAT IT WOULD COST TO GET THE BUILDING LEASEABLE JUST SEEMS OUTRAGEOUS. THAT'S ANOTHER THING. LIKE, DO I WANT TO BE PUTTING A REAL ESTATE AGENT BACK OUT ONTO AS A POSITION? TO ME, I'M REALLY LIKE IN THIS LIMBO STAGE RIGHT NOW.

IT WAS GREAT HAVING GEORGE. HE GOT EVERYTHING TEED UP FOR KARCHER AND REALLY GOT ALL OF THIS SUMMARIZED.

BUT NOW I'M LIKE, WELL, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BRING ANOTHER PERSON IN.

UNTIL I REALLY KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHICH DIRECTION TO POINT THEM AT TO FOCUS ON. THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF GEORGE'S BIGGEST QUESTIONS FOR ME. IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD I BE FOCUSING ON AFTER KARCHER? AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T REALLY KNOW. WE NEED TO GO TO THE BOARD AND FIND OUT WHAT IS THE DIRECTION. SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE MORE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. SO WE CAN KIND OF GET A DIRECTION, AND I'LL LOOK INTO THIS STUFF AND COME BACK WITH MORE. COULD I ASK, WHEN I ASK, BECAUSE I TOLD JOHN ABOUT THIS, ON PROJECTS, I KNOW, JUST I'M CHAMPING FOR...

CHS IS THAT THE THEATER IS IN DIRE NEED OF REPAIR. THE ROOF LEAK FROM A COUPLE YEARS AGO HAS DAMAGED THE FLOORING WHERE IT'S... I'M NOT HAPPY WALKING ON IT WITH HEAVY OBJECTS, SO I KNOW THERE'S LIGHTING NEEDS THERE.

WE REPLACED LIGHTING IN THE ATHLETIC AND THE GYMNASIUMS AT CHS, BUT WE'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING.

AND RECENTLY, I THINK THERE WAS A POWER SURGE. THERE WAS SOMETHING WHERE POWER WENT OFF.

IT JUST WENT BACK ON. IT DESTROYED SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THERE. SO I

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ON A FIVE-YEAR SCHEDULE, IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. SO I KNOW IT'S MORE MONEY TO SPEND, BUT WHEN I WAS TOLD ABOUT IT, I WAS LIKE, OH, PROBABLY NEEDED TO SPEND JUST A BRIEF BIT CHECKING THERE. I KNOW KELLY'S GOT SAFETY THINGS ON HERE, WHICH I THINK IS ALWAYS A PRIORITY, BUT IF WE COULD JUST CHECK IN WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH.

THIS WAS A LOT. THANK YOU FOR... THANK YOU. SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AN UPDATE ON GRAD ALLIANCE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE AMY AND DEREK ARE KEYED UP, QUEUED UP. ALTHOUGH THEY MIGHT BE KEYED UP. COULD BE BOTH.

COULD BE BOTH. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AS MUCH CONTROVERSY ON THIS? THIS IS GOING TO BE EXCITING. NO, IT WASN'T.

IT WAS JUST EXCITING. THERE WAS LAND STUFF, CAPITAL STUFF I WASN'T EXPECTING. THIS SHOULD BE A LITTLE LESS ENDING, YES.

HELLO. WELL, SHAUNA IS BRINGING UP THE SLIDESHOW. I JUST HANDED OUT, IT'S A PUBLIC-FACING DOCUMENT, IT'S AN FAQ DOCUMENT ON THE TRANSITION FROM CCA TO THE GRADUATION ALLIANCE ALE PROGRAM. SO THIS IS, WE SHARED THIS TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE DID THE ZOOMS FOR FAMILIES WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CCA.

ABOUT WHAT THE TRANSITION LOOKED LIKE AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE HAD. IS THAT RECORDED? WAS THAT RECORDED? IT WAS, WE PUT IT OUT, THERE WAS, UM, THERE WAS AN ERROR ON THE EDITING, SO WE HAD TO RE-PUT IT OUT. UM, SO THAT'S, IT'S OUT, THAT'S OUT.

YEAH, BOTH, BOTH, BOTH. UM, BOTH MEETINGS ARE OUT THERE AND THEN REALLY QUICKLY, TOO. UM, APRIL 3RD, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

DEREK, IS A DAY WHERE WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT CCA FAMILIES REALLY.

ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN GRAD ALLIANCE BECAUSE THAT'S THE CHOICE SCHOOL DEADLINE. SO WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S BEEN A LITTLE STRUGGLE. FIGURING OUT ALL PROJECTIONS. WE'VE KIND OF LET CCA, WE'VE KIND OF PUSHED THAT ASIDE UNTIL WE KNOW MORE. SO THAT'LL BE A BIG DATE, TOO. SO WE CAN KIND OF CIRCLE AROUND NEXT MONTH. NOT AS MUCH AS I WOULD WANT IT. I THINK WE HAD, I WANT TO SAY WE HAD 30 AND 20 RESPECTIVELY, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WATCHED THEM AFTERWARDS.

THERE WAS, THERE WAS, AND I THINK A LOT OF THOSE FAMILIES DO TALK AMONGST EACH OTHER, TOO, SO HOPEFULLY WORD OF MOUTH GETS OUT. SO I WAS HOPING ON MORE, LIKE 80, AND SO WE GOT 50. SO IT LOOKS LIKE OUR TECHNOLOGY IS STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW, BUT MOST OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT I PROVIDE ON THE SLIDESHOW IS IN THIS HANDOUT. OKAY, IN THE SLIDESHOW, JUST...

OKAY, SO I'LL GO THROUGH THE SLIDES AND THEN I'M ASSUMING WE CAN POST THEM FOR THE PUBLIC AFTERWARD, RIGHT? SO I CAN JUST SPEAK.

THEY'RE ALREADY POSTED. YEAH, SO REALLY, I WANTED TO JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT WHAT IS GRADUATION ALLIANCE. AND THEN AMY AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS

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THAT'S THEIR ONLINE VERSION OF SCHOOL FOR STUDENTS. THEY ALSO HAVE CREDIT RECOVERY, WHICH WILL BE PARTNERING WITH THEM FOR SUMMER SCHOOL.

MORE TO COME ON THAT, AND AND THEN ALSO IN SCHOOL.

SCHOOL YEAR CREDIT RECOVERY COURSES. SO THEY HAVE KIND OF THE FULL BOAT OF CREDIT RECOVERY AND ONLINE LEARNING OPTIONS AVAILABLE. SO THEY ARE, THEY'VE BEEN IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON FOR A VERY LONG TIME. ONE OF THEIR, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY THEY'RE RAGGING POINTS WHEN WE'VE MET WITH THEM IS THEY'VE HAD ONE AUDIT FINDING IN THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY.

IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

AND THEY SERVE A VARIETY OF SCHOOLS ACROSS THE STATE.

VERY LARGE SCHOOL DISTRICTS LARGER THAN US, AND ALSO VERY SMALL DISTRICTS.

SO THEY'RE VERY WELL VERSED IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, IN THE ALE WORLD, VERY WELL KNOWN. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS EXCITING FOR US WHEN WE LEARNED THAT.

SO A FEW THINGS IS THAT THIS IS REALLY AN EXPANDED PARTNERSHIP.

THERE'S NO CONTRACT NEEDED.

OH, WE GOT THE SLIDESHOW GOING HERE. I'M GOING TO GO THERE.

THERE WE GO. THERE'S NO NEW CONTRACT NEEDED. WE ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE WITH THEM. THE COURSEWORK THAT ALL THE COURSES ARE DESIGNED BY ARE BUILT ON WASHINGTON STATE STANDARDS. AND THOSE COURSES ARE ALL DELIVERED BY WASHINGTON STATE TEACHERS, AND THE THEIR SOFTWARE IS PROPRIETARY. SO WHERE SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNERS WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS, SUCH AS APEX OR EDGE ANNUITY, THERE, THEY'RE WELL SHARED, I SHOULD SAY. GRADUATION ALLIANCE REALLY DOES UPDATE THEIR SOFTWARE QUITE REGULARLY, AND THEY OWN THEIR OWN SOFTWARE. SO THEY BECAME AN ONLINE PROVIDER, APPROVED ONLINE PROVIDER IN OUR STATE IN 2009. SO THEY REALLY, YOU KNOW, MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS STARTED DOING THIS WORK DURING THE PANDEMIC, INCLUDING OURS, AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT LONG BEFORE THAT. AND SOME OF THE CHANGES ACTUALLY THAT PRINCIPAL HOLMES MADE THIS YEAR. THEY WERE LIKE, YEAH, WE ONLY ALLOW STUDENTS TO TAKE TWO CLASSES, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE'VE FOUND OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. THEY CAN HANDLE ONLINE AT A TIME AND BE SUCCESSFUL.

AND MANY DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATE HAVE OFFERED FIVE OR SIX CLASSES AT A TIME, WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT IN AN ONLINE SETTING. THEY HAVE, I HAVE IT ON THE SLIDE HERE, BUT THEY HAVE OVER 60 PARTNER DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

AND AS I MENTIONED, SOME ARE REAL SMALL AND SOME ARE REAL LARGE. THE EVERETT PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN A PARTNER OF THEIRS SINCE 2013, 2013.

IT'S A LONG TIME. SO JUST FROM OUR, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH GRADUATION ALLIANCE IS THEY ARE A KAMLOFF SCHOOL DISTRICT STUDENT ENROLLED IN THE GRADUATION ALE PROGRAM.

SO ALL OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT THE STUDENT WILL HAVE WILL BE DELIVERED BY THE GRADUATION ALLIANCE TEAM. AND THEY HAVE, LIKE I SAID, CERTIFICATED, WASHINGTON STATE CERTIFIED STAFF. THEY HAVE A LEARNING COACH AND THEY HAVE THEY ALSO PROVIDE ALL THE TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT. SO A STUDENT IN THE PROGRAM IS ISSUED A LAPTOP THAT HAS A CELL RECEIVER IN IT, SO IT HAS CELL SERVICE ANYWHERE YOU CAN GET CELL SERVICE, THEY CAN DO THEIR WORK.

THERE'S NO WI-FI NEEDED, WHICH IS NICE AS WHAT WE HAD BEFORE WITH CHROMEBOOKS.

WE'D, YOU KNOW, YOU DEPEND ON THE FAMILY TO HAVE WI-FI, AND NOT ALL FAMILIES HAVE WI-FI. SO THAT THE ALL THE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED BY THE GRADUATION ALLIANCE, WE WILL PROVIDE SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES FOR STUDENTS. THAT'S PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND WE LIKE THAT, WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF SERVING THAT STUDENT FLUIDLY IN THEIR EXPERIENCE. SO THEY HAVE THE SAME CASE MANAGER IF THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, GRADUATION ALLIANCE WASN'T FOR ME. AND I WANT TO GO TO HAYES OR CAMAS HIGH OR DISCOVERY. THEN THAT TRANSITION HOPEFULLY WILL BE BETTER AND SMOOTHER BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE THAT CONNECTION TO THE TO THE CASE MANAGER. SO OVERALL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THIS CHANGE AND REALIZE ALSO THAT IT'S A CHANGE. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CSD STAFF SERVING ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, BUT WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WASHINGTON STATE CERTIFIED STAFF HELPING THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PIECE I'LL SAY IS WE'VE REALLY, I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE GRADUATION LINES.

PEOPLE FOCUS ON THE STUDENT.

ADDITIONALLY, OUR DISTRICT, WE'LL HAVE A LIAISON PERSON.

SO, PRINCIPAL HOLMES WILL SERVE AS LIKE THE SECONDARY SCHOOL OPTIONS ADMINISTRATOR. SO WHEN A STUDENT WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW THIS, MY PLACEMENT IS NOT WORKING FOR ME RIGHT NOW. NOT, I'M NOT FINDING SUCCESS, IT'S NOT SERVING ME WITH MY NEEDS. THEN THEY'LL MEET WITH AMY AND THEN SHE'LL TALK THROUGH HERE THE OPTIONS.

IN OUR DISTRICT, WE HAVE DISCOVERY, HAYES, KAMASAI AND THEN GRADUATION ALLIANCE AS A

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STUDENTS ARE FULL-TIME IN GRAD ALLIANCE, SO THERE'S NOT, THERE WILL NOT BE PARTIAL ENROLLMENTS. SO WHEN WE HAD THE CCA, AS WE WERE KIND OF EXITING FROM THE PANDEMIC TOWARDS MORE TRADITIONAL, GETTING BACK TO NORMAL SCHOOL, WE HAD SOME STUDENTS WHO WOULD BE PARTIALLY ENROLLED. SO LIKE THEY WOULD HAVE FOUR CLASSES AT CHS AND THEN TAKE CLASSES IN CCA, SO THEY COULD GO TRAIN FOR SPORTS. OR, YOU KNOW, FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. SO WE'RE LETTING SCHOOLS SERVE KIDS IN THAT WAY. SO THAT STILL IS A POSSIBILITY, BUT THEY'LL WORK WITH THEIR SCHOOL IF THEY...

THEY WANT THAT AND NOT HAVE A PARTIAL ENROLLMENT IN THE GRADUATION. IT'S REALLY DESIGNED FOR STUDENTS TO BE EITHER FULL-TIME OR IN A CREDIT RECOVERY TYPE OF MODEL. STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAM WILL RECEIVE A CANVAS HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME, A CANVAS SCHOOL DISTRICT DIPLOMA. YEP, I'M SORRY.

BUT THEY WILL PARTICIPATE, AT THEIR CHOOSING, IN THE CANVAS HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS OUR CHOICE.

SCHOOLS HAVE VERY SMALL GRADUATIONS. THEY'RE VERY PERSONALIZED. CANVAS HIGH SCHOOL IS MORE TRADITIONAL, A LARGE GRADUATION, AND THOSE STUDENTS CAN BE HONORED IN THAT SETTING. AS A CSD GRADUATE. ADDITIONALLY, WE MAY HAVE SOME STUDENTS WHO GRADUATE, YOU KNOW, OFF THE NORMAL CYCLE, SO NOT IN JUNE, BUT THEY MAY GRADUATE IN DECEMBER. AT A MID-YEAR.

FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, AND THOSE CAN BE HONORED AT THE BOARD MEETING, AS WE DO FOR OUR CURRENT GRADUATE, OUR GRADUATE GRAD ALLIANCE STUDENTS. SO STATE TESTING IS ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT WILL BE DONE BY THE DISTRICT, SO WE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. AND I ALREADY MENTIONED THE IEP SERVICES THAT WE WILL PROVIDE THROUGH OUR CASE MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORT OF STUDENTS IN THE GRAD ALLIANCE PROGRAM. LET'S SEE THERE. THERE AREN'T AP OR HONORS COURSES. WE'VE HAD THAT QUESTION A LOT, SO IT IS, LIKE, I SAID, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY DESIGNED TO BE TO REPLACE ONE OF OUR IN-PERSON SCHOOLS.

THERE ARE LANGUAGES, SO A STUDENT COULD BE A GRADUATE, THE COLLEGE UNIVERSITY READY FROM GRADUATION ALLIANCE.

THERE ARE LANGUAGES AVAILABLE TO MEET THE UNIVERSITY PATHWAY GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS.

ALSO, STUDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN CAMAS HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETICS, AS ALL OF OUR STUDENTS ARE. AND ONE OF THE BIG ASTERISKS I PUT IN THIS IN THE ONLINE FORMAT WAS THAT STUDENTS NEED TO CHECK WITH THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR.

THERE ARE A VARIETY OF VERY SPECIFIC RULES AROUND ATHLETIC ELIGIBILITY FOR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T PHYSICALLY ATTEND. THAT SCHOOL WHICH THEY'RE PARTICIPATING WITH. SO OUR HAYES STUDENTS HAVE THAT, OUR DISCOVERY STUDENTS, AND THERE'S NUANCES THAT I'VE NOT ALWAYS BEEN AWARE OF WHEN I TALK WITH STEVE AND OUR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR. SO STUDENTS CAN PARTICIPATE, AND THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO, BUT THERE ARE THINGS LIKE, IF YOU STARTED AT ONE SCHOOL AS A NINTH GRADER AND YOU TRANSFERRED HALFWAY THROUGH, THEN YOU HAVE TO DO A CERTAIN THING. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE, BEFORE A STUDENT CHOOSES THIS, THAT THEY WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR A SPORT. IF THAT'S THEIR, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PARTICIPATE. AND THERE, ADDITIONALLY, JUST AS PART OF THE ATHLETIC COMPONENT, THERE ARE MORE THAN 25 NCAA-APPROVED COURSES, WHICH MEANS THAT A STUDENT ATHLETE COULD SAY, YEAH, I WANT TO BE FULL-TIME IN GRADUATION ALLIANCE, AND THEN PARTICIPATE IN COLLEGE ATHLETICS. SO THAT'S THE NCAA REQUIREMENT, THAT STUDENTS HAVE APPROVED COURSES.

OKAY, I THINK THAT'S THE BULLET POINTS OF ALL OF THE THINGS.

I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. THE LAST THING I'LL JUST... ADD BEFORE WE GET TO THE QUESTIONS IS REALLY THAT WHEN WE'VE KIND OF ASKED AROUND PARTNER DISTRICTS.

GRADUATION ALLIANCE HAS A PRETTY STRONG REPUTATION. SO THAT WAS, I WAS A PRETTY STRONG, YOU KNOW. PART OF THE PROCESS THAT WE WE DID WAS TO REALLY ASK AROUND, LIKE, WHAT'S THE REPUTATION OF THIS ORGANIZATION? AND WE'VE BEEN PARTNERS WITH THEM FOR A LONG TIME AND STRONG PARTNERS.

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YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE HANDLING OUR SUMMER SCHOOL PROGRAMMING AS WELL. SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO LOOK? IS THAT STARTING AS SOON AS THIS SUMMER? YEAH, SO WE'RE STILL, WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK TO TALK MORE THROUGH SUMMER SCHOOL. BUT IT'S A CREDIT RECOVERY ONLY SUMMER SCHOOL. SO, STUDENTS WHO HAVE ATTENDED A COURSE AT ONE OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS AND FAILED THE COURSE CAN THEN SIGN UP FOR THIS AS A CREDIT RECOVERY MODEL. AND IT'S ONLINE. AND THEY, VERY SIMILARLY, THEY'LL PROVIDE THE STAFFING.

WE WILL PROVIDE A LIAISON TO WORK WITH THE STUDENTS. SO WE WON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO, LIKE, THE CREDIT ADVANCEMENT, IS THAT WHAT WE CALL IT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THERE WON'T BE CREDIT ADVANCEMENT THIS SUMMER. WE DO PARTNER WITH CASCADIA, WHICH HAS BEEN A COOL THING. SO LAST YEAR WE HAD... I BELIEVE EIGHT CLASSES AT DISCOVERY HIGH SCHOOL. AND THE CASCADIA RUNS LIKE A SEVEN-WEEK SUMMER SCHOOL, WHERE STUDENTS GET A HALF CREDIT, AND THEY'RE IN EXPLORATION CTE CLASSES. SO THAT IS A WAY THAT, LIKE A STUDENT, IT'S KIND OF COOL. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY GET TO TRY OUT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T. OR THEY DON'T WANT TO KIND OF GIVE UP THEIR COURSE-TAKING TIME DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR TO TRY. AND WHAT I FOUND IS SOME OF THEM LOVE IT. THEY'RE LIKE, WOW, THAT WAS REALLY FUN, AND I WANT TO DO MORE OF THAT. IS THE SUMMER SCHOOL FREE? THE CASCADIA SUMMER SCHOOL? NO. NO, THERE'LL BE A FEE TO OUR STUDENTS. AND WE ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING TO LOWER OUR FEES, BUT THAT'S PART OF THAT MEETING I HAVE NEXT WEEK. OUR HOPE IS THAT IT'S FAR MORE AFFORDABLE.

THE MODEL, THE SERVICE MODEL THAT THEY HAVE IS, SHOULD BE LESS. LAST YEAR, WE CHARGED $200 A HALF CREDIT FOR OUR SUMMER SCHOOL.

AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WE LOOK TO SHIFT, IS THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD FINANCIAL SAVINGS TO OUR FAMILIES FOR SUMMER SCHOOL. SO THERE'S NO MORE TAKING, YOU KNOW, SOME KIDS LIKE TO TAKE THE PE IN THE SUMMERTIME, SO YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S NOT CREDIT RECOVERY. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. WHICH I'M NOT SAYING IS GOOD OR BAD. I JUST, I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF STUDENTS WHO WOULD TAKE THAT, SO THEN IT FREED UP MORE CLASSES TO PUT ON THEIR SCHEDULE. BUT YEAH, THAT BECAME REALLY POPULAR DURING THE PANDEMIC, AND ESPECIALLY AS A LOT OF STUDENTS CAME OUT OF THE PANDEMIC CREDIT DEFICIENT. AND WE ACTUALLY OFFERED THAT, AND WE CLOSED THAT DOWN TWO YEARS AGO. NOW, THE ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT I'M AWARE OF RIGHT NOW IS EVERGREEN, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERGREEN. BUT I'VE HEARD THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT STOPPING THAT AS WELL. WE TALK THAT UP IN FORECASTING ALL THE TIME.

OKAY. OH, YOU CAN GO. GO AHEAD, CONNIE. YOU SAID ATHLETICS, WE WILL GUIDE OUR STUDENTS.

WHO WILL BE GUIDING OUR STUDENTS THROUGH, LIKE, IF YOU TRANSFERRED FROM ONE SCHOOL TO THE OTHER, YOU HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS.

WHO'S GOING TO BE PROVIDING THE GUIDANCE FOR ATHLETES? SO THAT WOULD BE THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR IN CONJUNCTION WITH AMY. OKAY.

I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MANY SPECIFIC, NUANCED RULES THERE ARE AROUND THE ATHLETIC PARTICIPATION. I THINK THAT THE WIA HAS SHIFTED THOSE OVER TIME, AS ONLINE PROGRAMS HAVE, I GUESS, POPPED UP. STUDENTS ARE ENROLLING IN AN ONLINE PROGRAM, LIVING IN THEIR OWN HOUSE, AND THEN PARTICIPATING IN ATHLETICS THROUGH A DIFFERENT DISTRICT.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THERE'S SOME REALLY SPECIFIC RULES THAT HAVE HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, THAT'S EVEN, AND HONESTLY, THEY'RE CHANGING. LIKE, I USED TO THINK I KNEW, I DID. I KNEW ALL THESE RULES VERY WELL ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, AND THEY'VE CHANGED VERY RAPIDLY BECAUSE OF THE PREVALENCE OF ONLINE SCHOOLS.

BUT AS LONG AS THEY WORK WITH AMY AND THE AD, THERE'S A PATH IF WE FOLLOW IT FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY. MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T EXPECT IT'S AMY'S JOB TO PROMOTE THAT.

THERE'S ATHLETICS. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO LET THESE STUDENTS KNOW? IT'S ONE THING TO SAY, IF THEY COME TO YOU AND SAY, YOU KNOW, OH, I'D LIKE TO DO TRACK OR TENNIS, YOU KNOW, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROMOTE TO THEM? IF THEY DON'T HAVE A, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CANVAS EMAIL ADDRESS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A, WILL THEY HAVE A SCHOOL DISTRICT EMAIL ADDRESS, BUT A GRAD ALLIANCE LAPTOP? THEY'LL HAVE ONE OF OUR.

OKAY, SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW, BUT I MEAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THEM INFORMED? BECAUSE COMMUNICATION IS ALWAYS TOUGH, RIGHT, TO LET STUDENTS KNOW, LIKE, HERE'S ALL THE THINGS YOU COULD PARTICIPATE IN. I DON'T KNOW IF I SPEAK WELL TO THE TECHNICAL SIDE, BUT I THINK I'D LOVE FOR AMY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW... I MEAN, IT'S THE ADVISING PART. IT'S LIKE WHEN STUDENTS SAY, I'M THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING.

SHE MEETS WITH THE FAMILIES AND THE STUDENTS INDIVIDUALLY, SO MAYBE I'LL LET AMY... SHE DOES A GREAT... SHE'S NOT GOING TO... NO. YEAH. WE'RE FRIENDS

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BUT WHEN I LOOK AT IT, THERE ISN'T A LOT OF CHOOSING THAT FOR STATE.

YEAH, YEAH. IF YOU'RE CHOOSING ONLINE, YOU'RE SORT OF CHOOSING NOT TO GO THAT ROUTE. NOT TO GO THAT ROUTE. BUT TO KNOW IT'S AWARE. LIKE, I THINK OF THE STUDENT THAT WE SAW THIS LAST WEEK WHO GOT INTO YEARBOOK, RIGHT, WHICH CCA HAD, BUT THEY WON'T HAVE OUR DEGRADO. AND THAT MEANT A LOT TO THEM, RIGHT? SO MY OTHER QUESTION, AND IT'S JUST NOT TO HARP ON IT, BUT WE PUT DOWN THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN ATHLETICS. CAN THEY PARTICIPATE IN OTHER ASB CLUBS AND EVENTS? YEAH. SO HOW DO WE LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE AT DISCOVERY, YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE AT CHS. IF YOU'RE AT CHS, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CLUB. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING IS, SINCE THEY'RE CAMPUS SCHOOL DISTRICT HIGH SCHOOLERS, HOW DO WE, I GUESS THIS IS, AGAIN, MAYBE IT'S FOR AMY, LIKE, YOU SEE A STUDENT THAT'S FEELING LIKE THEY NEED SOMETHING TO CONNECT TO THEIR JUNIOR YEAR. LIKE, HOW DO WE LET THEM KNOW ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THERE ARE IN THE DISTRICT? BECAUSE THAT JUST SEEMS TO BE A, IT COULD BE A CHALLENGE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PARTICIPATE IN DECA. IF THEY'RE LIKE, I WANT TO BE, I WANT TO GO TO GRAD ALLIANCE, BUT I WANT TO BE IN DECA. OR I WANT TO BE IN TRACK. OR I WANT TO DO THEATER. OR A CLUB.

LIKE, I LIKE CHESS. WHATEVER.

I'M JUST, I KNOW WE HAVE ATHLETICS HERE, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT OTHER ASB. WELL, WOULDN'T IT HAVE TO BE AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES OR NO? BECAUSE THERE'S. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. WE KIND OF HAVE TWO TYPES OF CLUBS. WE HAVE, LIKE, A SCHOOL-BASED CLUB THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO THAT SCHOOL. AND WE HAVE, LIKE, ROBOTICS. IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE WHERE ANYONE IN THE DISTRICT CAN PARTICIPATE IN ROBOTICS. SO WE HAVE STUDENTS IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE LARGER CLUBS, AND THAT WILL BE AN OPTION FOR ALL THE GRADUATION ALLIANCE STUDENTS. SO, LIKE, A DECA WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD TAKE IN A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

YEAH, OKAY. BECAUSE DEC IS A CURRICULAR CLUB. YEAH. THEY ACTUALLY DO MOST OF THE WORK DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. AND THAT, JUST TO BE HONEST, I MEAN, KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE HARD CHOICES SOMETIMES.

WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, I GUESS, IS ABOUT CHOICE. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE UNDER HERE THE QUESTION, CAN STUDENTS ENROLL IN CASCADIA TECH AND GRAD ALLIANCE? AND THE ANSWER IS NO. BUT, AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, I'M NOT SURE.AMY, YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT. WHEN STUDENTS COME UP THEIR FRESHMAN OR SOPHOMORE YEAR, THEY TALK ABOUT THINGS THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT, OR THEY'RE INTERESTED, AND YOU KIND OF GUIDE THEM AND SAY, WELL, WE'LL HAVE A CASCADIA EVENT. YOU CAN COME SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND LISTEN TO THE STORY, RIGHT? SO THAT'S A PITCH. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THEM COME BACK INTO THE DISTRICT, MAYBE DISCOVERY, HAYS, OR CHS, AND THEN DO THAT. SO IT'S US, AGAIN, YOU PITCH IT ALL THE TIME, TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT PATH. YOU AND YOUR EDUCATORS DO TO STEER A STUDENT TOWARDS WHAT... MIGHT BE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST, THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU THINK WILL STILL WORK? LIKE, TO PITCH GOING FROM GRAD ALLIANCE TO MAYBE, OH, I MIGHT WANT TO BE A PILOT, OR I MIGHT WANT TO BE A DENTAL HYGIENIST.

YOU'RE LIKE, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND THEN GO TO CASCADIA. DO YOU THINK THAT'LL HAPPEN? I MEAN, IS IT GOING TO FIND A DIFFERENT TYPE OF STUDENT THAN CCA HAS? YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. AND ALSO, I THINK, MEETING WITH THEM.

YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE DIFFERENT STUDENTS? YOU'D EXPECT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, THE TYPE OF STUDENT IN FULL-TIME GRAD ALLIANCE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. OKAY. I WAS JUST

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RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I LIKE, WHEN MATTHEW'S SAYING, LIKE, CAN THEY GET CONNECTED BACK? LIKE, SOMETIMES IT MIGHT JUST BE I NEED A BREAK FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER. AND SO THEN THEIR GOAL COULD BE.

THEN I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND THEN I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN CASCADIA TECH OR CLUBS OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO IT'S NOT A FOREVER, YOU'RE IN THIS. IT COULD BE A SEMESTER THING. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

THEY BRING UP TRACY. SO OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE STUDENTS WITH OPTIONS WHEN THEY NEED THEM. AND AMY ARTICULATED THAT, TOO. SO A STUDENT MAYBE HAS A HEALTH ISSUE THAT CAME UP WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AT HOME, OR THEY NEED TO BE AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL, OR THERE'S SOME KIND OF AN ISSUE WITH THE FAMILY WHERE THEY NEED TIME TO DO THINGS, LIKE, MAYBE A FAMILY MEMBER GETS ILL THEMSELVES OR SOMETHING. SO, YEAH, THE GOAL WOULD BE IN THOSE SITUATIONS TO GET STUDENTS BACK INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THE IN-PERSON SETTING, AND TO SERVE THEM WHILE THEY'RE OUT AS BEST AS WE CAN. I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS. SO YOU SAID THAT WE WILL HANDLE STUDENTS WITH IEPS. WHAT ABOUT 504S? SO, YEAH, THE 504, THEY'LL HAVE A CSD CASE MANAGER WHO WORKS WITH THE GRADUATE LIFE. OKAY.

AND THEN I ASSUME, SINCE THEY'LL GET CAMAS DIPLOMAS, THEY'LL HAVE TO DO A SENIOR PROJECT? YEP.

BECAUSE THAT'S ON OUR POLICY? YEAH. OKAY. IS IT A CAP CENTER PROJECT? WHAT'S OUR INTENT? LIKE, WHAT YOU DO AT HAY IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN. IS IT GOING TO BE? THEY'RE ALL UNDER THE SAME. YEAH. NOT NECESSARILY IN ENGLISH, BUT THROUGH THEIR SENIOR YEAR.

KIND OF LIKE RUNNING START KIDS THAT AREN'T TAKING ENGLISH AT SCHOOL. THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR SENIOR PROJECTS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. THAT WOULD LEAD TO MAYBE A SUBSET QUESTION, WHICH WE SAW THIS LAST WEEK.

THE STUDENT DID FANTASTIC, BUT HAD NEVER GIVEN A PRESENTATION BEFORE. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO HELP THAT? IF FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, STUDENT NEXT YEAR IS GRAD ALLIANCE FULL-TIME, THEY DO IT FOUR YEARS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO HELP THEM GET PREPARED, SO THAT'S NOT SO SCARY FOR THEM? I MEAN, THE ONE STUDENT WE SAW DID GREAT, BUT... THEY'D NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO GIVE A PUBLIC PRESENTATION BECAUSE THEY WERE FULLY ONLINE FOR FOUR YEARS.

DON'T THEY HAVE THAT IN THEIR STATE STANDARDS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? AND SO SHOULDN'T IT BE EMBEDDED IN SOME OF THOSE? I MEAN, THEY MIGHT NOT DO IT IN PERSON, BUT. YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK MAYBE THE PERSON HADN'T DONE IT IN PERSON. THERE ARE STANDARDS ABOUT SPEAKING AND PRESENTING IN ALL OF THEM. IN 1912.

STANDING UP IN FRONT OF. FOUR STRANGE ADULTS IN A ROOM. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU DID IT ONLINE, PRESENTING YOUR PROJECT TO US. YEAH. IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU WANT TO MEET THEM FIRST, AND THEN THEY CAN COME AND PRESENT. SO ALL OF THE CSD GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS, SO THE PATHWAY REQUIREMENT, CREDIT REQUIREMENT, AND THE ZONE PROJECT, ALL REQUIRE ELEMENTS OF GRADUATION FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. AND SO YOU SAID THERE'S A CSD EMPLOYEE WHO WILL BE LIKE A COUNSELOR OR SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THESE GRAD ALLIANCE. KIDS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF THOSE, THEIR HIGH SCHOOL AND BEYOND PLAN, AND THEIR SENIOR PROJECT AND GRAD PATH AND ALL THAT. AND THEN YOU SAID, UM, STUDENTS LIKE, IF A KID WANTS TO DO SOME IN PERSON AND SOME ONLINE, YOU SAID SCHOOLS WOULD HANDLE THAT INDIVIDUALLY. HOW DO THEY DO THAT ONLINE IN PERSON IF THEY HAVE A SPECIAL NEED? SO, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY I'M A, UH, SOME SORT OF A. LET'S SAY I HAVE A BASKETBALL TRAINING SIXTH PERIOD IN. THE SCHOOL CAN WORK WITH THE STUDENT TO HELP SUPPORT THEIR NEED.

AND AMY DOES THIS ALL THE TIME WITH HER STUDENTS. LIKE, HEY, THEY WANT TO WORK, SO THEY GET INTO WORK-BASED LEARNING.

RIGHT. MAYBE AT CHS, I KNOW MANY STUDENTS WHO, HEY, I TAKE ZERO-PERIOD WEIGHT TRAINING OR DO SOME OTHER THING, WORK-BASED LEARNING SOMETIMES, HAVE THAT FIFTH OR SIXTH PERIOD OFF TO DO MY TRAINING.

GOTCHA. OKAY. IT WOULDN'T BE AN ON-LINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SOME ALTERNATIVE THAT THE SCHOOL WORKS WITH THE STUDENTS.

OKAY. IT'LL BE PART OF OUR ALL OF OUR SCHOOL CHOICE PRESENTATIONS AND THEN THE COMMUNICATION WE SEND OUT

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LIKE WE LIKE, EVERY YEAR. WE DO A SCHOOL CHOICE, AND THAT'S WHAT JOHN REFERENCED. ON APRIL 3RD IS WHEN THE SCHOOL CHOICE DECISION IS MADE FOR EIGHTH GRADE, AND SO IT'LL BE ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR SCHOOL CHOICE. AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE COUNSELORS LOOK OVER THEIR CASELOADS. IF THEY SEE SOME KID REALLY STRUGGLING OR VERY CREDIT DEFICIENT, THEY WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION AND TALK ABOUT CHOICES. AND ALSO WHEN THE STUDENT IS, YEAH, STRUGGLING, OR THEY HAVE THAT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE OR PHYSICAL HEALTH ISSUE, OR WHATEVER IT IS, THEN THE COUNSELOR IS REALLY A KEY CONDUIT TO MAKING THE DECISION. ALONG WITH PRINCIPAL HOLMES. I MEAN, WE LITERALLY HAD ONE FRIDAY.

JUST, HEY, YOU NEED TO TALK TO PRINCIPAL HOLMES. AND I'M SURE WE'LL SET UP A MEETING WITH THE FAMILY AND OPTIONS AND CHOICES. REALLY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CHOICES. AND HAVE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES BE INFORMED ABOUT THOSE CHOICES AND THEN MAKE THE DECISION THAT'S BEST FOR THEIR FAMILY.

OTHER QUESTIONS? LAST ONE. SO I KNOW IT'S LIKE LOOKING, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL, LIKE LOOKING FAR OUT. DO WE THINK THIS? THIS IS MORE OF A SUSTAINABLE MODEL, LIKE THE GRAD ALLIANCE, WHETHER IT'S GRAD ALLIANCE OR THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM. WHERE, LIKE, YOU'RE ALL IN OR YOU'RE NOT, RIGHT, IS MORE SUSTAINABLE FOR STUDENT SUCCESS, RIGHT? I MEAN, DO YOU THINK WE'LL SEE STUDENTS GRADUATE HIGHER WITH A PROGRAM LIKE THIS? WHERE IT'S YOU'RE ALL THE WAY IN IT, OR YOU'RE NOT, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN COMMIT TO IT. HOW ARE WE WORKING WITH OUR COUNTY REPORTING? WHERE DO THEY GET TO? I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEHIND THE BALL.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS SHOULD MAKE THIS NOT AS MUCH OF AN ASSESSMENT. YOU KNOW, OUR STUDENTS NEED A BREAK FROM SCHOOL FOR WHATEVER REASON, OR WE NEED TO REMOVE THEM FOR WHATEVER REASON. THIS IS A... .PROGRAM. FOR... .AND.

EACH SCHOOL FOR THE... .I.

THINK THIS IS WHERE THIS KID SHOULD GO. YEAH, AND MATTHEW, I'LL ALSO ADD AMY'S 100% RIGHT, AND SO WHEN? WHEN THIS SHIFTED OVER TO AMY. AND SHE SAID, HEY, LISTEN, WE'RE GONNA IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY AND ALLOW, HAVE STUDENTS COME FACE TO FACE AND AND HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. WE KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THAT, BUT PUTTING THE BEST INTEREST OF KIDS FIRST WAS WAS MORE IMPORTANT. BUT TO YOUR POINT OF SUSTAINABILITY, THAT PROBABLY WASN'T SUSTAINABLE.

WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SIX AND A HALF FTE SALARIES DEDICATED TO THAT, TO A PROGRAM THAT WAS LOSING STUDENTS FOR A COUPLE REASONS. TO AMY'S POINT, IT WAS BECOMING LESS POPULAR ACROSS THE NATION AS OR FURTHER AWAY FROM COVID, BUT ALSO WHAT'S BEST FOR KIDS. SO WE KNEW THE PROGRAM WAS GOING TO FACE ENROLLMENT CHALLENGES.

AND SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW COST EFFECTIVE THIS IS GOING TO BE. BUT OUR CALCULATIONS SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A POSITIVE FINANCIALLY FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL. JUST YOU TAKE THOSE SALARIES AWAY AND YOU MOVE INTO WHERE GRAD ALLIANCE IS COVERING MOST OF THOSE COSTS.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS WE LOOKED AT GRAD ALLIANCE IS. THE RATE OF THE FTE THAT WE'RE RECEIVING WAS FAR GREATER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER VENDORS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. IT WAS... IT WAS 20 PLUS PERCENT VERSUS 7% ACROSS THE BOARD. SO, ABSOLUTELY, I THINK THE ACADEMIC ANSWER IS THE TOP RESPONSE FOR THIS, BUT THERE'S ALSO A MAJOR FINANCIAL COMPONENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LONG-TERM FOR THE DISTRICT THAT WE THINK IS THE RIGHT MOVE. THE PRIMARY SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER FOR STUDENTS IN THE LONG RUN.

THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE OUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN. IT'S VERY HARD FOR US TO STAFF IT WELL.

LIKE AMY DID, WHAT SHE DID WAS PRETTY BRILLIANT BECAUSE SHE STARTED OFFERING COURSES AT QUARTERS. THAT WAY WE COULD OFFER MORE COURSES FOR OUR STUDENTS, BUT WHAT WE WERE FINDING IS, LIKE THE ELECTIVE, THE AMOUNT OF CERTIFIED TEACHERS YOU WOULD NEED IN A REALLY SMALL SCHOOL IS VERY DIFFICULT TO STAFF. I MEAN, THAT WAS OUR TRY AT TRYING TO SOLVE THAT, BUT GRADUATION LINES HAS THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A STATEWIDE COHORT.

SO, WHEN I WANT TO OFFER AN ELECTIVE CLASS, I HAVE 50 STUDENTS ACROSS THE STATE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TAKING THAT CLASS, AND I HAVE A CERTIFIED TEACHER WHO CAN DO IT. FOR US, THERE WERE EIGHT STUDENTS. WE WANT TO OFFER A FLEXIBLE CURRICULUM, BUT WE COULDN'T BECAUSE

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THEY HAVE TO HAVE A WRITTEN STUDENT LEARNING PLAN THAT'S CHECKED IN ON EVERY TWO WEEKS. SO, ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S PART OF WHAT GRADUATION ALLIANCE IS EXPERT AT. YEAH, SO I THINK WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE TALK ABOUT KIDS NEEDING A BREAK FROM SCHOOL. IT'S MAYBE NEEDING A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT TO DO THEIR SCHOOL, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT KIDS TO BE LIKE, WAIT, I NEED A BREAK. I'M GOING TO DO GRAD ALLIANCE. I ONLY HAVE TO DO TWO CLASSES AT A TIME, BUT IT'S REALLY THE SAME ACADEMIC RIGOR, AND YOU HAVE TO... THE CLASSES ARE SHORTER, SO IN LIKE, A SEMESTER, YOU DON'T JUST DO TWO CLASSES.

YOU'RE DOING TWO EVERY, WHAT, LIKE SIX WEEKS OR SO, FIVE, SIX WEEKS? AND SO I THINK WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH OUR VERBIAGE, WITH OUR MUNCHKIN EARS AROUND.

BUT I THINK THAT SOME OF THAT PRECEDENCE, CONNIE, HAS ALREADY STARTED THIS YEAR WITH, YOU KNOW, PRINCIPAL HOLMES' MORE DEMAND ON THAT RIGOR. AND BRINGING THOSE STUDENTS IN, AND THE INSTRUCTORS, TOO.

COMING IN TO MEET WITH THEIR STUDENTS. SO THE PRECEDENCE HAS ALREADY STARTED THAT THIS ISN'T JUST A FREEBIE.

RIGHT, AND I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE KIDS THAT ARE ALREADY INVOLVED IN THAT. IT'S THE KIDS. THE MESSAGE TO THE NEW ONES. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT A BREAK, AND YOU ONLY HAVE TO TAKE TWO CLASSES JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT. TWO AT A TIME. TWO AT A TIME, YES, YES, TWO AT A TIME, YES. JUST TWO AT A TIME, ALL THE TIME.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, I'LL BE HONEST, I WOULD STRUGGLE. I CAN'T LEARN VERY WELL THAT WAY.

SO I THINK EACH LEARNER IS...

RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. AND IT'S NOT COVID ONLINE, RIGHT, WHERE WE ALL HAD TO PIVOT IN A MATTER OF WEEKS VERSUS A COMPANY THAT'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. YEAH.

AWAY FROM THAT, AND I'M TAKING MORE OF THE CLASSES RIGHT NOW. I AM BEHIND.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M TAKING BIOLOGY, ALGEBRA, ENGLISH, AND U.S. HISTORY, WHICH I HAVEN'T STARTED YET.

BUT, UM... THE INTERACTION THAT'S REQUIRED IS AT A LEVEL THAT IS, I THINK, BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE WITH EDGENUITY. AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE EASIER BECAME A THING WITH OUR ONLINE PROGRAM. SO IT'S A WAYS AROUND DOING THE WORK FROM HOME. IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFERENT. AWESOME. THAT'S RIGHT. I'M IMPRESSED YOU'RE TAKING THE CLASSES. I KNOW. I GOT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO IT. YEAH. BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE, BUT YOU HAVE A PLACE TO WORK, THAT YOU'RE DOING YOUR WORK, THAT YOU'RE I GET ON AND IT SAYS, I'M 23 YEAH.

AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DEREK AND AMY. IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, THAT WAS AWESOME. THANK YOU.

THANKS. DOES SHE WANT TO STAY FOR THE REALLY FUN POLICY REVIEW? YEAH. AMY'S GOT 23 ASSIGNMENTS TO CATCH UP ON.

DEREK HELPED WRITE MOST OF THESE, SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO STICK AROUND. SO DID EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE POLICIES AND DO YOU WANT TO? IT'S PROBABLY GOOD TO GO ONE AT A TIME. ONE BY ONE. YEAH. IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOL COUNSELING PROGRAM. YOU HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THESE THAT WE WENT BACK AND RESEARCHED. SO, SHAWNA, DID YOU WANT TO HOP IN ON THIS ONE? RIGHT. OKAY. AND

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BUT WE'RE DOING IT THROUGH THE CBA. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, AND THEN THE OTHER CORRECTIONS IN HERE WAS, LIKE A LOT OF THE OTHER, EXPANDING THE INCLUSIVITY, THE PROTECTED CLASSES, VERBIAGE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? IS IT JUST ME? OKAY, THANK YOU, SHAUNA. NEXT IS 3241 STUDENT DISCIPLINE.

LOOKS LIKE THESE CHANGES ARE FROM THE POLICY ALERT FROM AUGUST. I'M GOOD WITH IT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT ONE ALSO. I DO APPRECIATE, SHAUNA, THE SPREADSHEET WITH THE NOTES ON IT AND ALL THE WORK THAT ALEX DID. HAS BEEN DOING, IT REALLY MAKES IT VERY GREAT.

SO JUST KUDOS ON THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? WE'RE ALL GOOD. SO, 3141, AN INTERNAL REQUEST TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE AROUND REVOCATION OF ACCEPTANCE DUE TO POLICY VIOLATIONS. YEAH, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A LOT MORE CHANGES IN THIS THAN JUST... THAT. SO I'M, I'M, I GUESS I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ON THIS ONE, JUST SINCE IT'S AN INTERNAL REQUEST, LIKE, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE RATIONALE BEHIND SOME OF THESE THINGS. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE, BULLET POINT A, AND IT'S JUST LIKE, LIKE, EVEN JUST TAKING OUT THE WORD SIGNIFICANT TO FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. SO WE'RE JUST SAYING, IF IT IMPACTS THE DISTRICT AT ALL, IT'S NO MORE. YEAH. IS THIS A REQUEST FROM BUSINESS SERVICES, OR IS THIS A REQUEST FROM OUR REGISTRARS, TEACHING AND LEARNING? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SAY WHO MADE THE NOTES OR WHY THEY WANTED THEM, I GUESS. USUALLY, IT'S BASED ON SOMETHING.

HAPPENING, AND WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR POLICY OR CONTRACT OUR. IT LOOKS, I MEAN, TO ME, TO ME, WHEN I'M READING THROUGH IT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO FIRM UP.

LIKE, OR MAKE IT BASICALLY MAKE IT EASIER TO REVOKE A BOUND, OR EVEN NOT, EVEN NOT EVEN DENY IT, BUT LIKE, REVOKING AN ACCEPTANCE LIKE, THAT'S A BIG SECTION OF THIS, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, LIKE THIS IS A. THIS SEEMS LIKE A BIGGER CONVERSATION. BUT I THINK IT WAS THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, LIKE, LIKE, IF IT'S A FIGHT, IF IT PUTS A TEACHER INTO OVERLOAD OR SOMETHING, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ALLOW THAT BOUNDARY EXCEPTION THE NEXT YEAR. SO I THINK NOW THIS IS JUST FIRMING IT UP MORE. I READ IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. WHEN I READ IT WITHOUT THE CORRECTIONS, IT'S VAGUE. WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT? I MEAN, DEFINE SIGNIFICANT, YOU CAN'T DEFINE IT. OR, TO SAY OTHER FINANCIAL HARDSHIP OR OTHER DOCUMENTATION, THAT'S POOR POLICY TO SAY, OR OTHER. OTHER COULD BE ANYTHING. IT COULD BE A STICKY NOTE. I SEE THIS AS CLEANING UP OF LANGUAGE THAT MAKES IT CLEAR, WHEREAS BEFORE IT'S NOT CLEAR. DO YOU ALL HAVE COPIES OF THE COMMENTS, THE LIVE GOOGLE DOC THAT HAS THE COMMENTS? IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS, THOUGH. THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE COMMENTS. SO IF YOU GO... VIEW ALL COMMENTS.

THERE ARE SOME... SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, I KNOW IT'S NOT SUPER HELPFUL, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF START TO SEE THE CONVERSATION THERE.

WITHOUT HAVING ALL THOSE PEOPLE AT THE TABLE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE GENESIS OF IT, A LITTLE BIT OF WHO HAD THE INTEREST. SO,

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YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST DON'T LIKE, I JUST DON'T LIKE THAT SENTENCE. SO I WANT TO BE A LITTLE CAUTIOUS ON HOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE OFFLINE ON THIS, BUT THERE'S BEEN A FEW CASE-BY-CASE SITUATIONS THAT HAVE, THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR MORE AUTONOMY.

ON REVIEWING THESE SITUATIONS, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT LOCKS, THE CURRENT POLICY LOCKS THE PRINCIPAL UP A LITTLE BIT ON MAINTAINING STUDENTS WHO MAY HAVE NOT NECESSARILY BEEN THE RIGHT FIT, SO TO SPEAK.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK OF THE CODE OF CONDUCT IN HERE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

LIKE, FINDING THE CODE OF CONDUCT. YEAH, I THINK THE CODE OF CONDUCT IS GREAT, YEAH. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT SPURRED. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, OUR SCHOOLS BEING ABLE TO, UM, WORK WITH FAMILIES IN A DIFFERENT WAY, RIGHT? HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE AUTONOMY ON MOVING THEM IF THEY'RE NOT WORKING OUT. AND THE PRIOR POLICY, I THINK, DIDN'T ALLOW FOR AS MUCH OF THAT. SO, AGAIN, I'M JUST BEING A LITTLE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY A FEW OF THESE SITUATIONS, AND I DON'T WANT TO IDENTIFY ANY, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK MORE OFFLINE IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION.

BUT IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE COMMENTS, THAT WILL HELP YOU KIND OF SEE THAT THERE WAS JUST SOME NEED.

FOR SOME, PRINCIPAL AUTONOMY.

SHANA, WOULD YOU? YEAH. I KNOW.

I'M NOT SAYING I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I'M JUST SAYING, IT'S JUST KIND OF JUST LANGUAGE WISE. IT'S CLUNKY TO ME. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I'M JUST SAYING, THERE'S GOT TO BE AN EASIER, I DON'T KNOW, ONE CALENDAR SCHOOL YEAR. ONE SCHOOL YEAR. I MEAN, YEAH, YOU DON'T NEED THE CALENDAR WORD.

IT'S A SCHOOL YEAR. YEAH.

YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SO WHAT WERE WE RECOMMENDING TO REMOVE? TO TAKE THE CALENDAR OUT. IT SAYS IT'S ACCEPTANCES FOR ONE SCHOOL YEAR ONLY.

CALENDAR YEAR IS LIKE JANUARY TO DECEMBER. YEAH, SO I JUST THINK WE SAY SCHOOL YEAR. I WOULD PROBABLY SUGGEST THAT DOUG HOOD WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO MAYBE BRING TO BRIEFINGS ON THIS, OR AT LEAST WE CAN GET SOME CONVERSATION. BECAUSE I WANT TO SAY IT WAS UNDER SOME PRINCIPLES THAT HE SUPERVISED THAT BROUGHT THIS TO US, SO HE MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE FOR US TO BRING. AND YOU'LL SEE DOUG'S NAME PROBABLY MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE COMMENTS. YOU COULD ALSO EVEN SAY ONE SCHOOL CALENDAR YEAR. YEAH. SWITCHING THE WORD SCHOOL AND CALENDAR, I THINK MIGHT ACTUALLY THEN, BUT I'M NOT STUCK ON THAT EITHER WAY. BUT YEAH, I'D MOVE IT FORWARD. I'LL JUST READ THE COMMENTS MORE. YEAH, CONNIE, JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT. IF YOU WANT ANYBODY AT THE BRIEFINGS TO KIND OF GO THROUGH IT, YEAH, INVITE THEM OVER. I MEAN, I WOULD JUST RUN BY, RUN IT BY DOUG AND SAY WE WANT TO TAKE THE CALENDAR OUT.

OTHERWISE, IT JUST IT CLARIFIES THAT IT SAYS IT'S ONE SCHOOL YEAR, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO THE CALENDAR YEAR, IT'S ONE SCHOOL YEAR. I CAN ALWAYS HAVE THEM BRING, SEND ME A LITTLE SUMMARY TOO, THAT'S FINE. YEAH, THAT'D BE FINE. YEAH, OKAY, UM, BUT IF NOT, IF THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT, LET'S KNOW. ALL RIGHT, 3143, NOTIFICATION. I'VE GOT TO MAKE THIS BIGGER SO I CAN READ THIS.

NOTIFICATION AND? IS IT NOTIFICATION ON? NOTIFICATION? AND DISSEMINATION. OH, THERE'S NO D. DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION ABOUT OFFENSES AND NOTIFICATION OF THREATS, WHICH IS WHAT I'M READING OFF OF. OKAY, THIS ONE. IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO READ FORMATTING-WISE SOMETIMES, AND IF YOU GO DOWN TO PAGE, IF YOU GO DOWN TO B, WHICH IS LIKE ON THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE IT'S ON.

IT SAYS NOTIFICATION OF THREATS AND EVENTS OF HARM. THAT FIRST SENTENCE, IT SAYS STUDENTS AND SCHOOL EMPLOYEES WHO ARE SUBJECT TO, AND THEN THERE'S A BIG SPACE, AND THEN IT SAYS THREATS OF VIOLENCE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. LIKE, THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE ONE. IT WAS A LITTLE HARD FOR ME TO FOLLOW BECAUSE MAYBE SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN. OH, AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE LAST PAGE, D,

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JUST A BRAND NEW POLICY.

YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH IT. SEXUAL HARASSMENT OF DISTRICT STAFF PROHIBITED, WHICH IS 5011. THAT'S DEFINITION AND INVESTIGATION SECTION AND QUESTIONS. I'M GOOD. ALL RIGHT. 5.012, PARENTAL, FAMILY OR MARITAL STATUS AND PREGNANCY AND RELATED CONDITIONS OF STAFF.

AND THIS ONE, ALSO BRAND NEW. I DON'T KNOW THIS ONE THAT WE.

IT'S A NEW POLICY, BUT WE CUT OUT THE SECTION IN THE MIDDLE. BECAUSE WE SAY WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY THAT ENCOMPASSES IT. AND IT SAYS THAT WE'RE CHECKING WITH WASDA. SO DO WE WANT, I GUESS, WE HAVE TO DELETE THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE POLICY. THERE WAS SOME MORE COMMENTS FROM ALEX AFTER THAT, SAID SHE HEARD BACK FROM WASDA. IF YOU GO FARTHER, BECAUSE I SAW THAT, TOO, I'M LIKE, WHY ARE WE DELETING PART OF A NEW POLICY WHEN IT'S JUST A NEW POLICY? BUT THEN THERE WAS SOME REASON FOR THAT. SEAN IS THIS, THE IS THIS? ONE OF THE ONES THERE WAS TO PUT SOME UPDATES, LIKE AS A FRIDAY, I THINK THAT WAS A DIFFERENT ONE. WAS IT OKAY? OKAY, YEAH. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? AND IT LOOKS

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I'M GOOD WITH THAT ONE. 6570, PROPERTY AND DATA MANAGEMENT.

SIGNIFICANT CHANGES REGARDING PROPERTY RECORD. DEFINITIONS AND INVENTORY, PROCESS AND RECORDS KEPT.

FLAGGED FOR BUILDING TECH PROCEDURE.

REMOVAL OF DISTRICT PROPERTY AND LENDING OF DISTRICT-OWNED EQUIPMENT AND BOOK SECTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I'M GOOD. ALL RIGHT, 6910, CONSTRUCTION FINANCING.

SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AND EXPANSION OF NON-VOTER APPROVED DEBT SECTIONS, INCLUDING REQUIRED NOTICE DESIGNATIONS.

CLASS DESIGNEE TO PERFORM DUTIES PREVIOUSLY ASSIGNED TO SUPERINTENDENT ONLY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. OKAY.

6920 CONSTRUCTION, DESIGN, REORDER AND ADDITION OF WHACK AND RCW REFERENCES. ALL GOOD, ALL RIGHT. I WOULD, UM, WELCOME A MOTION TO MOVE THESE. WE DON'T, WE CAN'T. SORRY, NOT TODAY. SO THESE GO FOR FIRST READING.

THESE WILL GO TO THE, YEAH, BOARD MEETING. PSYCH. SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. LOGISTICS. BOARD AVAILABILITY. I THINK I WENT IN AND UPDATED. I DID, TOO.

YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE DO TWO-BY-ONES ON ST. PATRICK'S DAY? WHAT DAY IS ST. PATRICK'S DAY? I'M NOT.

I JUST FOUND OUT I'M 14% IRISH. WE'RE DONE IN DUE TIME. OKAY. ARE THEY GOING TO BE UP? SO YOU'RE GOING TO PUT AN APRIL, MAY AND JUNE AVAILABILITY IN? YEAH, MOST OF IT WAS. DUE TO THE MID-YEAR REVIEWS, WITH ME TAKING ON THE SCHOOLS. SO WE HAVE NOT JUST THE CABINET, BUT THE PRINCIPALS AS WELL.

AND SO RESCHEDULING AT THEM COULD BE REALLY CHALLENGING.

AND WE'RE A LITTLE PAST MID-YEAR AS IT IS. SO I APPRECIATE IT. AND OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING, OR I GUESS THAT'S OUR WORKSHOP IN MARCH, IS THE MONDAY AFTER SPRING BREAK. IN APRIL.

APRIL IS THE MONDAY AFTER SPRING BREAK. IS EVERYBODY AVAILABLE FOR THAT? YEAH. FOR EVERYBODY. VAMINI WILL BE LEADING THAT WORKSHOP FOR US. SHE DOESN'T KNOW THAT YET. I AM UNAVAILABLE AT NIGHT. AND I WONDER, IN TIMES LIKE THAT, DO WE WANT TO MOVE IT TO TUESDAY? WOULD THAT, LIKE, JUST THROW THE UNIVERSE INTO CHAOS? FOR ME. NO? ARE THERE OTHER EVENING MEETINGS? IT'S THE 13TH, MONDAY. SPRING BREAK IS THE FIRST FULL WEEK OF APRIL. SO WE ACTUALLY COME BACK TO SCHOOL ON THE 6TH? NO, WE COME BACK ON THE 13TH. I MEANT THE 13TH.

WE SHOULD BE... YEAH, SO WE SHOULD... I'LL BE BACK, BUT.

WAS THERE A PUPPY

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OH, THEY'RE SO COOL. THEY'RE THE WIGGLE BIKES. YEAH. WE COULD HAVE A COMPETITION. AND I LINKED THE AGENDA. OH. SO THAT IF YOU WANT TO GO IN AND- IT'S A HYPERLINK. I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE. NOTICE I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO HASN'T SIGNED THESE UP.

YEAH. I WILL BE AT THE MID-YEAR PLANNING SESSION. YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT? I WILL. OH. I JUST WAS THE LAST ONE TO GO IN AND MARK MY AVAILABILITY.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? FOR ME, THE 27TH IS THE REFUEL. SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHO, LAST TIME I ASKED, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SAID YES, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE FROM 3 TO 6, 430 TO 6. IS FEEDING.

PEOPLE WILL BE OUT OF THERE BY 6.30, PROBABLY. BUT OUR CHARTWELL'S NUTRITION PARTNERS ARE, I'M IN THE LAST LEG OF PLANNING WITH THEM. THEY'RE PLANNING LIKE A LASAGNA MEAL.

SO DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO PARTICIPATE. ANYONE HERE? JOHN, YOU SAID YOU DID. HOW MANY DO YOU WANT TO BE THERE? SEVEN, I GUESS. FEEDING THE PUBLIC IS 430 TO 6, SO AS LONG AS YOU GET THERE, THERE WILL BE A SET OF US.

WHERE ARE WE AT AGAIN, MATT? IT'S IN WASHOUGAL AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. I'LL SEND OUT THE INFORMATION IF YOU'RE ON.

SO, CONNIE, YOU'RE YES? ALL RIGHT. WHO ELSE? ANYBODY? YOU'RE ME. I WILL SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY. I'M JUST GETTING A HEAD COUNT. BECAUSE THEY WERE PUTTING OUT THE CALL TO GET, LIKE, THREE OR FOUR MEMBERS OF NUTRITION SERVICES TO COME WITH OUR TECHNICAL FOLKS. SO, YEAH. MY AFTER-SCHOOL AVAILABILITY JUST FILLED UP WITH MUSICAL STUFF FOR THIS TIME, SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE, I DON'T THINK I'LL BE ABLE TO.

THAT'S OKAY, COREY. WE'LL SAVE YOU A SLICE. OKAY. SORRY. AND DON'T FORGET, URINETOWN IS COMING UP. I'M GOING TO PLUG URINETOWN AGAIN STARTING NEXT FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND THEN THE FRIDAY, SATURDAY OF REFUEL AND OUR EVENT. SO, YEAH. SO BOOK YOUR TICKET.

OKAY. WHOA. THANK YOU.

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